@Not4u13 the game isnt supposed to foster exploration. you can explore all you want if you dont have pois and/or spawns you cant play. its part of why pogo players have used wayfarer access to game the system and pack as many pois as they can in small-er spaces. (other reason being gyms ofc). Treadmill or no treadmill AS is supposed to convert steps walked w game closed when game opens, how those steps were walked matters absolutely NOTHING. Its my business if i walk/jog 10km outside or on an eliptical/treadmill/spin bike. 10km are 10km. (random number).
This event could have been interesting, w/o AS it's rubbish. We are amidst a global pandemic and in most countries outside of USA/EU vaccination efforts are 0% and they have lockdowns and curfews. To demand ppl to go out and play amidst that is not -just- irresponsible on devs' part, it's downright criminal as ppl would have to violate local lockdown laws/restrictions/personal safety to play a video game.
They need to fix AS prior to releasing this new portk-exclusive content, how ppl use AS is their bussines.
If the AS changes were to return the gameplay to the way it was originally launched, shouldn't Niantic have explained that this was the intent? I think that there would be fewer angry players if this had been made clear. (And made clear in a prominent place, not buried within another thread.) 🙄
@Kiyone57: Well, at start the game didn't have AS at all...
Btw., sure, AS is supposed to work with Portkeys, but frankly not sure if the 250 m daily quests is supposed to completable by AS. Anybody knows?
@Drakonite, @Not4u13: Kind of off-topic, but: Yeah, the app is clearly about walking around, but does a poor job in encouraging exploration.
There is no radar in the game, so no reason to walk into a certain direction.
All Inn's, GHs or Fortresses are the same, no reason to go to a specific one (unlike in PoGO, where you might explore the area for certain quests, might want to get to certain gyms to do a specific raid or prestige that gym or even get extra XP or BB hearts for spinning new stops).
There is a feature similar to "nests", but outside of parks I find those very underwhelming; yes, I realize that currently they are not enabled currently as one part of the Corona measure, but even when they where working, the yield was pathetic, so after a few attempts in the early days, I ended up more or less ignoring those flags.
So, basically, if you have like a 30 minute route that takes you past a couple of POIs and a few cluster spawns, there is no incentive to ever play anywhere else, ever...
exactly @HalloMami I have a park w 200 pois and a spawn heaven. it also happens to be flat, the rest of my area is all up/down hills and a collective 20 pois spread over...30-60mins walk (park is loopable in 10-15mins) and the spawns are a wasteland. to go into any other kind of 'good' hunting grounds i have to use either public transport or car... I have below 0% incentive to do that. W/o my park id most likely not have been playing still, I honestly dont know how rural players who need to drive for 30-60mins for a single gh/inn and a few random spawns along the way still find this game fun or continue playing.
I've tried googling it and all I'm finding is docking devices that allow me to use a mouse and keyboard with my phone. How will that help me open portkeys? Am I suppose to carry the device in my pocket while walking? You must be talking about something else, but I wasn't able to find an app or android feature with that name, so I don't know what you're talking about.
Regardless, that's still using up significant battery life and damaging the screen (my phone is already getting burn-ins from my HPWU play, no need to accelerate the issue from non-play). It also doesn't count distance while walking within a building or exercising indoors. So that's not a practical solution for me.
re: AS - "The game is NOT designed or intended to record distance from a treadmill." "The point of the game is exploration and the Pandemic threatened to end all gameplay. Fortunately Niantic found... workaround [until people cheated and] Niantic attempts to lock those cheats down broke AS for Amdroid." "Now we have to return to gameplay the way it was originally launched"
1) That's the first time I'm hearing that treadmill is cheating. Can you show me where an HPWU representative said that?
2) If AS is only for "exploration" then it's also cheating to use AS while at home, in the office, grocery shopping, etc. because none of that is exploration. If AS is for any walking around, then it shouldn't matter if it's around the house or on a treadmill: walking is walking, it's literally the same movement.
3) AS was released pre-pandemic, treadmill walking was counted pre-pandemic, so it has nothing to do with the pandemic.
4) While non-AS has never recorded treadmill walking, AS has always done so. For people with functional AS right now, AS still counts treadmill. None of their recent fixes have done anything to prevent that.
5) Game was launched without Adventure Sync. So you're 'correct', for Android users the game has returned to original state of not having AS. However, why do iPhone users still get AS? Shouldn't their game also be returned to original state of no AS?
re: new content & finishing previous content
I don't have a problem waiting for content, I understand game development takes a while. I spent A LOT of hours on this game finishing the previous content and I'm fine with that. My issue is that I cannot participate in the new content due to a game bug that Niantic/Portkey Games has refused to fix for 7.5 months. As I said, if I cannot participate in the new content, I can not justify continuing to play this game. If Niantic has no intention of supporting my device, they should just say that. Then I can stop wasting everyone's time complaining about the bug and move on to a game that does support my device.
Due to a slight delay in our 2.18.1 update, we are pushing the 1920's launch event to 8/18-8/20. We will run a spotlight event this weekend, stay tuned for details. Thank you!
@apm1117 Either that or a buggy release. Also, plenty of chance for golf gifts I assume, which helps with adversaries, letting you buy potions and EDM's if needed.
Spotlight events are boring for anyone not going for level 60 still. The boosts seem to be negligible, they cost a ton of energy and potions for the high resist rates, and they might give you a couple of gold gifts in return.
There has been 1 page of new content in the last year, and this event has been teased since like march. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect them to keep to a deadline they set. Players are getting bored of the same things over and over again.
If players are voting with their feet, then the HPWU team will know from their metrics … no need to shout “BORING” at them and brand their efforts “stupid”.
You could have the most valid point in the universe, but there’s no need to make it rudely … we’re all people here 🤷♂️
Sorry. It's called Game Booster. It came pre installed for me.
As for treadmill comments, that is just my opinion. I have no contact with Niantic. However, there is ample evidence seen in game design to suggest the intent is to encourage exploration. I've been playing since the beginning and I don't recall treadmill steps counting, but I know back before AS, the app had to be open.
I do believe AS was broken unintentionally, but I'm pretty certain it occurred because they were trying to close loopholes.
Why is the new content launch on a weekday? Wouldn’t it be better to have CD this weekend as promised in the earlier blog and have the event during the at least one day of the weekend?
@hpwulola Thank you so much for this update. As I mentioned above, I was genuinely concerned for player safety, particularly without Adventure Sync. Fingers crossed it can be resolved. And, even if not, it is reassuring to know we have been heard and that the team is being arare and conscientious regarding the global situation.
@apm1117 This isn't just about deadlines and content, though. Presumably, you are very lucky where you live, but the vast majority of the world is still dealing with outbreaks, restrictions and poor vaccine supplies. This delay means they are not as likely to ignore local restrictions and put themselves at risk.
It's unfair to android players to launch an event based on portkeys when you can't fix adventure synch. Mine worked fine until the forced update, now I have 5 portkeys sitting there locked because I can't make my steps count, even with the app open. You are going to lose EVERY android player if you do the mini event this weekend. Roll back the code for heavens sake to the last point it worked. Or refund android players every cent they sunk in the game and make it only available for Apple devices.
@Lycindelle I did read the thread. The main event was pushed back BUT they are having a spotlight 1920's event this weekend anyway. Or did you miss THAT announcement? So only Apple users can participate - excellent way to satisfy players.
@STUMBLEMOM I don't think the Spotlight Event is related to the new 1920's pages. It said stay tuned for details, so I guess we'll wait and see. I share your frustration as an Android player with non-functioning Adventure Sync.
1920's Wizarding World Convergence launch is scheduled for 8/18. The task lisk will be posted by WuTubers next week. We did significantly reduce the task requirements based on feedback we have seen from players.
Really excited for you all to see the new MACUSA Portkey and the new Foundables :)
@hpwulola , I understand the intention of spotlight events. However, they are intended for players wanting to complete their pages. How about those with already maxed out pages? There is no incentive to participate, the event has no effect on those players.
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@Not4u13 the game isnt supposed to foster exploration. you can explore all you want if you dont have pois and/or spawns you cant play. its part of why pogo players have used wayfarer access to game the system and pack as many pois as they can in small-er spaces. (other reason being gyms ofc). Treadmill or no treadmill AS is supposed to convert steps walked w game closed when game opens, how those steps were walked matters absolutely NOTHING. Its my business if i walk/jog 10km outside or on an eliptical/treadmill/spin bike. 10km are 10km. (random number).
This event could have been interesting, w/o AS it's rubbish. We are amidst a global pandemic and in most countries outside of USA/EU vaccination efforts are 0% and they have lockdowns and curfews. To demand ppl to go out and play amidst that is not -just- irresponsible on devs' part, it's downright criminal as ppl would have to violate local lockdown laws/restrictions/personal safety to play a video game.
They need to fix AS prior to releasing this new portk-exclusive content, how ppl use AS is their bussines.
@Not4u13
If the AS changes were to return the gameplay to the way it was originally launched, shouldn't Niantic have explained that this was the intent? I think that there would be fewer angry players if this had been made clear. (And made clear in a prominent place, not buried within another thread.) 🙄
@Kiyone57: Well, at start the game didn't have AS at all...
Btw., sure, AS is supposed to work with Portkeys, but frankly not sure if the 250 m daily quests is supposed to completable by AS. Anybody knows?
@Drakonite, @Not4u13: Kind of off-topic, but: Yeah, the app is clearly about walking around, but does a poor job in encouraging exploration.
So, basically, if you have like a 30 minute route that takes you past a couple of POIs and a few cluster spawns, there is no incentive to ever play anywhere else, ever...
exactly @HalloMami I have a park w 200 pois and a spawn heaven. it also happens to be flat, the rest of my area is all up/down hills and a collective 20 pois spread over...30-60mins walk (park is loopable in 10-15mins) and the spawns are a wasteland. to go into any other kind of 'good' hunting grounds i have to use either public transport or car... I have below 0% incentive to do that. W/o my park id most likely not have been playing still, I honestly dont know how rural players who need to drive for 30-60mins for a single gh/inn and a few random spawns along the way still find this game fun or continue playing.
also yes daily is doable w AS only.
@Not4u13
re: "Amdroid game dock"
I've tried googling it and all I'm finding is docking devices that allow me to use a mouse and keyboard with my phone. How will that help me open portkeys? Am I suppose to carry the device in my pocket while walking? You must be talking about something else, but I wasn't able to find an app or android feature with that name, so I don't know what you're talking about.
Regardless, that's still using up significant battery life and damaging the screen (my phone is already getting burn-ins from my HPWU play, no need to accelerate the issue from non-play). It also doesn't count distance while walking within a building or exercising indoors. So that's not a practical solution for me.
re: AS - "The game is NOT designed or intended to record distance from a treadmill." "The point of the game is exploration and the Pandemic threatened to end all gameplay. Fortunately Niantic found... workaround [until people cheated and] Niantic attempts to lock those cheats down broke AS for Amdroid." "Now we have to return to gameplay the way it was originally launched"
1) That's the first time I'm hearing that treadmill is cheating. Can you show me where an HPWU representative said that?
2) If AS is only for "exploration" then it's also cheating to use AS while at home, in the office, grocery shopping, etc. because none of that is exploration. If AS is for any walking around, then it shouldn't matter if it's around the house or on a treadmill: walking is walking, it's literally the same movement.
3) AS was released pre-pandemic, treadmill walking was counted pre-pandemic, so it has nothing to do with the pandemic.
4) While non-AS has never recorded treadmill walking, AS has always done so. For people with functional AS right now, AS still counts treadmill. None of their recent fixes have done anything to prevent that.
5) Game was launched without Adventure Sync. So you're 'correct', for Android users the game has returned to original state of not having AS. However, why do iPhone users still get AS? Shouldn't their game also be returned to original state of no AS?
re: new content & finishing previous content
I don't have a problem waiting for content, I understand game development takes a while. I spent A LOT of hours on this game finishing the previous content and I'm fine with that. My issue is that I cannot participate in the new content due to a game bug that Niantic/Portkey Games has refused to fix for 7.5 months. As I said, if I cannot participate in the new content, I can not justify continuing to play this game. If Niantic has no intention of supporting my device, they should just say that. Then I can stop wasting everyone's time complaining about the bug and move on to a game that does support my device.
@Not4u13 - above comment, not sure why it didn't link/ping you
Due to a slight delay in our 2.18.1 update, we are pushing the 1920's launch event to 8/18-8/20. We will run a spotlight event this weekend, stay tuned for details. Thank you!
BORING! No one cares about spotlight events, they are stupid.
@apm1117 Either that or a buggy release. Also, plenty of chance for golf gifts I assume, which helps with adversaries, letting you buy potions and EDM's if needed.
@hpwulola Thanks so much for the update! Glad all the bugs will be flattened out first.
@apm1117: rude.
Spotlight events are boring for anyone not going for level 60 still. The boosts seem to be negligible, they cost a ton of energy and potions for the high resist rates, and they might give you a couple of gold gifts in return.
There has been 1 page of new content in the last year, and this event has been teased since like march. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect them to keep to a deadline they set. Players are getting bored of the same things over and over again.
If players are voting with their feet, then the HPWU team will know from their metrics … no need to shout “BORING” at them and brand their efforts “stupid”.
You could have the most valid point in the universe, but there’s no need to make it rudely … we’re all people here 🤷♂️
spotlights are 100% boring for anyone who doesnt need to gold frame pages.
I'd much rather have this event actually work a couple weeks from now than have it be a terrible experience I quit the game over this weekend 🤷🏼♂️
bummed it got pushed a second time, but hoping for a less buggy launch with the later date🤞🏼🤞🏼
@Owl515
Sorry. It's called Game Booster. It came pre installed for me.
As for treadmill comments, that is just my opinion. I have no contact with Niantic. However, there is ample evidence seen in game design to suggest the intent is to encourage exploration. I've been playing since the beginning and I don't recall treadmill steps counting, but I know back before AS, the app had to be open.
I do believe AS was broken unintentionally, but I'm pretty certain it occurred because they were trying to close loopholes.
@hpwulola thank you so much. But, please, fix bugs asap.
thanks for postponing the event @hpwulola, hopefully AS'll be fixed by the 18th.
Pushing the event back was a great idea! Please fix AS first and if needed do the event even later. Thanks!
Why is the new content launch on a weekday? Wouldn’t it be better to have CD this weekend as promised in the earlier blog and have the event during the at least one day of the weekend?
@hpwulola Thank you so much for this update. As I mentioned above, I was genuinely concerned for player safety, particularly without Adventure Sync. Fingers crossed it can be resolved. And, even if not, it is reassuring to know we have been heard and that the team is being arare and conscientious regarding the global situation.
@apm1117 This isn't just about deadlines and content, though. Presumably, you are very lucky where you live, but the vast majority of the world is still dealing with outbreaks, restrictions and poor vaccine supplies. This delay means they are not as likely to ignore local restrictions and put themselves at risk.
It's unfair to android players to launch an event based on portkeys when you can't fix adventure synch. Mine worked fine until the forced update, now I have 5 portkeys sitting there locked because I can't make my steps count, even with the app open. You are going to lose EVERY android player if you do the mini event this weekend. Roll back the code for heavens sake to the last point it worked. Or refund android players every cent they sunk in the game and make it only available for Apple devices.
@Stumblemom Did you even bother to read the thread?
The event is not taking place this weekend, it was moved to a later date.
@Lycindelle I did read the thread. The main event was pushed back BUT they are having a spotlight 1920's event this weekend anyway. Or did you miss THAT announcement? So only Apple users can participate - excellent way to satisfy players.
@STUMBLEMOM I don't think the Spotlight Event is related to the new 1920's pages. It said stay tuned for details, so I guess we'll wait and see. I share your frustration as an Android player with non-functioning Adventure Sync.
@Stumblemom It will be just another normal spotlight event. Just some boosted traces.
Nothing to do with the 1920's, I suppose.
Yes, Spotlight event is unrelated to 1920's page. Here is the info for this weekend:
https://community.harrypotterwizardsunite.com/en/discussion/15408/spotlight-event/p1?new=1
1920's Wizarding World Convergence launch is scheduled for 8/18. The task lisk will be posted by WuTubers next week. We did significantly reduce the task requirements based on feedback we have seen from players.
Really excited for you all to see the new MACUSA Portkey and the new Foundables :)
Thank you for the confirmation @hpwulola, and for responding to feedback.
@hpwulola , I understand the intention of spotlight events. However, they are intended for players wanting to complete their pages. How about those with already maxed out pages? There is no incentive to participate, the event has no effect on those players.