The Free Rider Problem

kiheikidkiheikid Posts: 2,168 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited April 2020 in The Knight Bus #1 latest comment 19 July, 2020, 03:48 pm.

definitely not happy with my most recent fortress battle being randomly joined by a “teammate” who just sat there and did not engage a single foe.

i wound up having to battle all of the foes

and to add insult to injury, i received no family foundable fragment (if that free rider received a fragment for doing nothing, that would really stink)

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  • HPWUblueHPWUblue Posts: 1,595 mod
    edited April 2020 #223 April, 2020, 11:25 pm.

    I had a similar experience at fairly high level chamber (I even used a level 5 RS!). We were five while entering the Arena but, every time I defeated a foe, I found less and less people in the Arena! Me and a Professor ended up defeating the remaining 12 Foes on our own. TBH, it felt good!

    But I feel you.. We would've felt terrible if the other three just sat there, silently judging us 😅

  • kiheikidkiheikid Posts: 2,168 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2020 #524 April, 2020, 03:29 am.

    freeloader is less neutral than free rider, but yeah, let’s just call a spade a spade

    for profs, there also is the issue of someone tapping on a foe right after i put the det hex on it but before i can tap on that foe, leaving me with a different foe and not enough focus yet to do a separate det hex ... det hex thief !! 👿

  • Thunder2kThunder2k Posts: 28 ✭✭
    #624 April, 2020, 03:52 am.

    I've been booted from several Dark V battles right after using a bunch if gear for nothing.

  • PunkyfinsPunkyfins Posts: 202 ✭✭✭
    #724 April, 2020, 08:05 am.

    I've also been booted on one of my battles. I felt bad! It was like I left my teammates in the lurch.... And this was after I had been silently fuming about people leaving the fortress before all foes were defeated. ;)

  • LucoireLucoire Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #924 April, 2020, 09:47 am.

    @Magpie31 Well, write a Feature-Request 😘

  • Magpie31Magpie31 Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #1024 April, 2020, 10:22 am.

    @Lucoire Why bother? There are enough self-entitled, condescending so-and-sos who will write a 3 page wall of text when a casual comment will do.

    (24 words)

  • Magpie31Magpie31 Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #1124 April, 2020, 10:25 am.

    And yes, I'm cranky. I have worked 5.30 - 20.00 or later every day this week, and have just discovered that my friend's staff gave away my beer order for free. So no end of week drink. Very cranky Magpie right now.

    (41 words)

  • KodokmagKodokmag Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #1224 April, 2020, 10:38 am.

    I'd like it if there's feature to choose solo (locked challenge) and group battle.

    Still not very comfortable with the crowd and the feeling of did i do my share of battl e well or not.

  • DextraoneDextraone Posts: 47 ✭✭
    #1324 April, 2020, 01:44 pm.

    Just completed my second multi player fortress battle though it was only my FIRST via the Knight Bus. The only other, was early on and all three of us had limited resources as we were all still quite green in our profession development. Essentially we were in the chamber together, but playing solo, just trying to figure it all out. So last night, I checked out this thread and thoroughly studied the chart to prepare. I entered Forest 111 with a level 3 runestone as the 4th of 5 players as a Level 14 Professor with 131/134 lessons completed. My apologies to my teammates whoever they are, cause I don't really know what just happened!!! I have no idea how many foes we had to defeat, and I was totally absorbed with the first step (chart) of tossing my protection charm and scrambling to find werewolves and pixies with my head and ❤️ throbbing! I did manage to defeat 3 or 4 foes, but I have no idea how much or little I contributed to the team, but I tried! So, I can see how some players may just "freeload" to earn rewards, but please remember that some of us are just new to this! Now, back to the chart for me!

  • PunkyfinsPunkyfins Posts: 202 ✭✭✭
    edited April 2020 #1524 April, 2020, 02:54 pm.

    Also @kiheikid I tend to boost my team and then hex everything with high stamina (like those bloody spiders!! ;)) and take the werewolves for myself. So I don't mind Aurors taking over my hex. It's all part of my master plan! *muahahaha!*

  • LucoireLucoire Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2020 #1624 April, 2020, 03:02 pm.

    @Punkyfins Spiders are harmless. Those Acromantulas only want to cuddle... see, how fluffy they are? You've been misunderstanding them the entire time 😉

    But seriously though, Acromantulas are only so agressive because Professors have been hunting and hurting them. Be a well behaved Bookworm and tend to your Werewolves. Given time and a gentle Magizoology-Hand, the Acromantulas can be tamed and domesticated (at which time even a study-fanatic like you might be granted access to the precious spider-venom)

  • PunkyfinsPunkyfins Posts: 202 ✭✭✭
    #1724 April, 2020, 03:17 pm.

    @Lucoire (that. Made. My day. 🕷🕷🕷)

    Alright, Sir. But that pro-té-go wave of yours *cocks eyebrow*, effective. Though not elegant. I shall go back to my tomes on the uses for acromantula venom. 📔📕📓 (;) :))

  • OwlxOwlx Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2020 #1824 April, 2020, 03:29 pm.

    @Dextraone welcome to the forum welcome to group fortresses and...

    "Every great wizard in history started out as nothing more than we are now, students." -Harry Potter

    "Help will always be given at Hogwarts for those who ask for it"-Albus Dumbledore

    For new those learning to group fortress from a solo player without a team for communication and guidance had got be be little jumping in the deep end of the pool without being a good swimmer yet.

    Our big local group love group play and loves teaching strategies. We will all get stronger united!

    Hope you find this link helpful.

    @Dextraone many thanks and many kudos to you for wanting to learn! We'll get there together!

    Veteran group players please feel free to post positive, helpful tips and tutorial links or video in the above thread as well.

    Happy Pottering! Stay safe, be healthy and be well.

    edited because link was not working try below

  • SUPRMUMSUPRMUM Posts: 47 ✭✭
    #1924 April, 2020, 07:29 pm.


    When you get booted and the pop up to “restart” is shown - do not click it. Hard-closedown the app and restart the app that way. It may take a few times - but I’ve been able to get back into the battle that way.

  • CeruleanGirlCeruleanGirl Posts: 589 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #2024 April, 2020, 07:41 pm.

    The more group battles I engage in, the more frustrated I get with people who just sit there. I agree with @MrSciGuy that there should be some sort of fail safe where a person would be kicked out or at least get no prizes if they don’t participate in some way. Halo has this, you get kicked out if you are idle for too long, and while it is not fun to be down a team member, at least there is the satisfaction of knowing they aren’t being rewarded for their bad behavior.

  • PunkyfinsPunkyfins Posts: 202 ✭✭✭
    #2124 April, 2020, 08:13 pm.

    Thanks @SUPRMUM22 I'll try that next time.

    Unrelated: I can deal with hitchhikers in lower chambers. If there are five of us, with a decent auror a magi and me, you're welcome to a free ride. Just please don't bail in the last two seconds of lobby time in a *high* chamber. It just costs runestones....

  • xxxlindyxxxlindy Posts: 161 ✭✭✭
    #2224 April, 2020, 08:31 pm.

    Most of the free riders are casting in a brilliant runestone. Let's face it, we've all got dozens of them. Maybe a non-beilliant family runestone requirement could be instiuted.

  • PunkyfinsPunkyfins Posts: 202 ✭✭✭
    #2324 April, 2020, 09:27 pm.

    Though people still want their Errol fragments @xxxlindy . I think the price of a runestone for bailout is reasonable. It's just courtesy to not leave people hanging. But that's a different subject...

  • Uli14Uli14 Posts: 18 ✭✭
    #2424 April, 2020, 11:31 pm.

    I have also encountered multiple free riders so far. Earlier I was in combat with one other person with 4 foes, I killed 2 and they still just sat there I left 😂 But did lose a rune stone. I think they are the same players who have 200 friends and rarely give gifts.

  • kiheikidkiheikid Posts: 2,168 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2020 #2524 April, 2020, 11:45 pm.

    if i solo, i have to spend roughly “X” number of spells to get through “Y” number of foes.

    if i am “teamed” with a free rider, “we” now typically face 2Y number of foes, but since the free rider just sits there like a (rhymes with bird) on the lawn, i now have to spend roughly 2X number of spells to get the same amount of rewards (not counting teammate bonus for xp, which is not that important for me) ... ie, i don’t get double the family foundable fragments (mine and the free rider’s).

    i like the suggestion by @Kodokmag of allowing us the option to battle solo

    @Punkyfins - you’re a good teammate, unlike the free rider who is just a parasite

  • OwlxOwlx Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭✭✭
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