edited November 2019#3230 November, 2019, 08:42 pm.
I only had an hour to go pottering today as I wasn't feeling too great & didn't want to leave my teen on her own too long.
But I managed to get 30 gifts and every single one is the basic -either spell, ingredient or runestone gifts!
So I'm in a conundrum as to whether to send them, as they could clog up a friend's inbox & not be opened for a while in favour of the higher level gifts
...seeing as we can only open 10 (we really need this increasing! Pleeeeaase @HPWUTeam )
or to wait until i have some higher ones to send- hopefully tomorrow...or whether to send them anyway- cos its always nice to receive gifts! I am loving the receiving of any gifts at all ! So I'm happy to just try & get to all the gifts when I can.
Baruffios ingredient gifts are fab tho- finally- dragonclaw!!! Lol
I think it would be useful if we could have the choice to delete gifts instead of only open- as the receiver aswel as the sender. And it would still just show as gift received to the sender so it doesn't seem rude! Lol.
Then friends could open the ones they really want & delete the ones they don't need, for example spell energy if u live right next to an inn. They could keep the inbox clear for a different gift from that particular friend who's gift was deleted.
This then allows for some personal choice with the gifts. Which echoes the potterverse- like sometimes you've just gotta keep that weasley jumper & other times you just wanna bin those dress robes!! And on rare occasions- you are definitely thrilled with that invisibility cloak!- that's awesome!! Lol.
So- the changes I would personally like to see with the gifting feature as it develops are:
Being able to open more than 10 - as ive said in earlier post- perhaps 2 Extravagant, 3 Essential, and up to 5 of each of the 3 categories making a total of 20 per day possible if the right gifts are recieved would be great!!
The gift open and send buttons covering what your friend has last caught is a shame cos it was nice to check in on what people were catching before, so having the buttons underneath this info possibly?
The ability to delete the gift received & nog just as the sender would be good, so that we can tailor our gifts to suit without causing offence- the pop-up can still say gift received once its gone- doesnt need to say deleted.
Not sure if this is in line at all with what others think?
@AuroraKadavra I completely agree with you! Opening more than 10 would be great, but especially if we could delete ones we don’t want/need.
Until that happens, I’d say just send away. That’s what I do. As you said, it’s just nice to receive anything. For me personally, instead of prioritizing, I tend to go down my list and open 10 regardless of what they are. That way I open each person’s every few days.
I wish they would give some sort of flag we could attach as to a) what we are looking to receive and b) what types of gifts we would like to send to each friend. It stinks receiving an awesome gift from someone and forgetting who it was or just not being able to pay them back.
I have the same thing. I went to do some fortressing and everything I have received has been basic. I got 6 red spell books for myself, which is good going for me (I am too impatient and get bored of challenges) but I am disappointed in the gifts I have to give. But I eill give anyway and the recipient can choose whether to open or not.
@Magpie31 that is an astounding screengrab. I, too, am jealous! My area looks very similar to @kiheikid in that there's very little around.
I do get frustrated with how little is around and how infrequently I get gifts in inns or greenhouses. Yesterday I dined at inns about 12 times, but only got 2 gifts :( I do wish they were as regular as the runestone gifts
edited December 2019#3601 December, 2019, 12:27 pm.
@Majikum I think the reason is balance. They are assuming that most people will visit about 10 inns for every fortress they visit, to stock up on energy. So the spell energy gifts are less frequent so that we don't get overwhelmed. But a little more regularity would be nice.
What happens when your gift queue is full, by the way? Does it push gifts out or does it register as full? I am curious, as I don't want to lose good gifts on days I am doing a lot of playing.
I think when u hit the que limit at 30 it just doesnt let you add anymore, so u could pick up an extravagant one at an inn but it wouldnt go in the gift 'vault', pretty much like your spell energy or ingredients vault does when full.
So on good days when ive hit lots of inns & greenhouses etc i check wen my list is near 30 & send some out- then carry on collecting.
@MrSciGuy thats good to hear u seem to be doing the same as me so i feel better now if u kno what i mean lol. Il just try to rotate & my apologies to anyone who I can't return a better gift to yet, but rest assured they are all in my notebook (seriously- i keep sooo much data from this game! Which reminds me i have a load of formidable pixie data to post on Lefays thread yet) so I will get a better gift back to people asap!
@Majikum i feel ya on that one- on the days where i only have time for a quik potter its disappointing to hit the inns like 4 times & get only 1 gift maybe to give. I think wel all find our flow with the new feature soon enough. I love looking at the pictures & imagining being there- i really want to travel atm- thats my main life goal right now. So seeing the pics just inspires that even more & i love it!!
feedback for @HPWUTeam@HPWULola re ingredient giftboxes ... you asked for feedback, so here goes:
because of the artificially low limit of only 10 giftboxes per day that any one player can open, that 1-in-10 slot for giftbox opening has become a valuable asset ... except that by awarding only 1 unit of an ingredient as a reward from the standard ingredient giftbox - for example, i opened one such giftbox just now and received 1 unit of baneberry - you (the game developer) have effectively turned an asset into a liability (or, less harshly, just a wasted 1-in-10 space). that 1 unit of baneberry is not going to help me or anyone else, because we can pick up baneberry (when available) from the map in bunches of 3 units and because it takes 6 units (combined with other ingredients) to brew a single Tonic for Trace Detection.
that single unit of baneberry is just taking up space in the ingredient vault if it cannot be used promptly to brew, and chances are great that i would pick up baneberry off the map in a bunch of 3 units before i receive 2 more units from opening ingredient boxes. so, instead, that single unit of baneberry gets “inventory managed” (right, deleted) and effectively i shorted myself 1 giftbox slot for opening today.
solution: reward ingredients, whether via giftbox or greenhouse harvest or pickup off the map, in bunches (greater than a single unit) consistent with recipe for their use in brewing applicable potion.
I currently have over 10 people who have sent me gifts that i havent been able to get round to opening their first gift to me yet!! Admittedly I have quite a big friend list now, but still- i feel soooo rude having not opened those yet!! But its taking ages to get through them each day.
Ten is definitely nowhere near enough to feel like the gifting system works well.
Ive been sending loads! I potter a lot! So when i get to 30 in vault i send some out. But from my big list of friends sometimes theres not enough for me to send the 30 to cos they havent been able to open mine yet too!
Pleeeeease give us more to open @HPWUTeam !? A simple solution being 30. So you can collect & send 30 in a day at once, and open up to 30. That would work? 100 gifts a day max to send is just sorely missed out on by only 10 allowed to open. Then i could open down my list and get to see more pretty & amazing postcards!!
And btw- gotta totally agree with The Kid on the ingredients thing!! Eloquently stated & explained how it really becomes a disadvantage, which surely can't be right!?
edited December 2019#4309 December, 2019, 12:37 am.
I agree with the observations made by a lot of you. Obviously only being able to open 10! gifts a day is not working. Every day I fall further behind. I don’t really with the idea of throwing them out, that seems like it would just over complicate things. We simply need a higher limit on how many we can open.
@kiheikid I hadn’t even thought about the way the basic ingredients Gifts are really sort of pointless, as I usually just delete them if I don’t want them, but it does make sense to give them in at least the same amounts you would pick up on the map.
The main issue that I can see is just the limit to how many can be opened. That is the aspect that really needs to change ASAP.
I counted up yesterday after opening my 10 trying to work down the ones id not opened yet & i still have 52 unopened after that!! Its just going to take forever to get through & then the people we know well as friends are waiting too- which makes us feel worse!
At least at 30 a day i could crack the list in a couple of days, then restart so would be 3 days rollover again. So still leaving them for days but at min its into weeks! Its not like it would be a major advantage id be gaining- or anyone else im sure, cos many of the gifts are basic spell or ingredients, so hardly game- changing.
And for those not able to get out as much of send many gifts they would recieve from friends that vital life-line. Those of us who can get out are in a way just passing it along then.
So if we open 3 spell energy- yes we gain & can easily top up- but we pass on to those we know who need what, so it goes to them. Then we collect as normally did before gifting started. So I really think it needs upping to 30- ive seen my original request to up it & raised it now lol!
Anyone care to see my 30 & raise? Or should we fold at that 😂
Thank you admins that passed on one of the concerns so we can delete gifts. Now here's hoping they will tweak how many gifts we can open so I'm not plagued by grey buttons.
i appreciate the ability to delete outgoing giftboxes in one’s vault (though i do not pick up enough in one day to have had occasion to delete), but the real solution is to raise the limit of 30 giftboxes that one can send out per day. if you @HPWUTeam let us acquire up to 100 giftboxes a day for sending out, that let us send out that many. AND let us open up to one giftbox per friend per day, however many friends we are allowed to have and choose to have. that’s really it, plain and simple. if @HPWUTeam wants to lower the cap on the number of friends each of us can have, i don’t have an issue with that - it actually would be doing me a favor. the gifting process has become a game within a game, but it should not really take up so much time and attention that actual HPWU gameplay is affected
When CD started I sent spell energy gifts to those friends who could receive gifts, and they returned the favor. Though the energy is quite small combined with energy on the ground it got me through the event! Thank you HPWU for gifting.
Sorry i didnt get out at all yesterday guys so hence the total lack of gifts! My apologies.
I went down my friends list opening so got 10 further down but it feels like forever to get to others i feel so bad - sorry guys, I'm trying!
Going out today for a good wander near daughters school so not my usual route, hoping the inns there will be kinder than mine have been on fri & sat they were evil!!
I have gifts to send, but noone to send to as they haven't opened my gifts. I still have 2 gifts to open today, but waiting for a more 'referred gift. I don't want to open a green gift....I want to delete those.
I delete Ingredient gifts whenever I prune my gift list preferring to send Spell Energy. Over the past few days I haven’t obtained any Essential gifts and I can’t remember the last time I obtained an Extravagant gift
@OriginalCaruso same here! Its been 3 days now of just ordinary gifts, and ive been going to new places & 3 different routes i take, but im finding many of the inns im getting unlucky as they arent giving a gift at all as i pass!
My apologies to friends that gifts from me lately have been either non-existent or ordinary! Im trying folks! I really am!!
So, I offered to help someone out on here and left my friend code. I got a flurry of requests and now, for the first time ever, I have reached my limit on opening gifts so need to wait. I might have to trim a few down, maybe. I don't like not being able to send / receive easily.
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I only had an hour to go pottering today as I wasn't feeling too great & didn't want to leave my teen on her own too long.
But I managed to get 30 gifts and every single one is the basic -either spell, ingredient or runestone gifts!
So I'm in a conundrum as to whether to send them, as they could clog up a friend's inbox & not be opened for a while in favour of the higher level gifts
...seeing as we can only open 10 (we really need this increasing! Pleeeeaase @HPWUTeam )
or to wait until i have some higher ones to send- hopefully tomorrow...or whether to send them anyway- cos its always nice to receive gifts! I am loving the receiving of any gifts at all ! So I'm happy to just try & get to all the gifts when I can.
Baruffios ingredient gifts are fab tho- finally- dragonclaw!!! Lol
I think it would be useful if we could have the choice to delete gifts instead of only open- as the receiver aswel as the sender. And it would still just show as gift received to the sender so it doesn't seem rude! Lol.
Then friends could open the ones they really want & delete the ones they don't need, for example spell energy if u live right next to an inn. They could keep the inbox clear for a different gift from that particular friend who's gift was deleted.
This then allows for some personal choice with the gifts. Which echoes the potterverse- like sometimes you've just gotta keep that weasley jumper & other times you just wanna bin those dress robes!! And on rare occasions- you are definitely thrilled with that invisibility cloak!- that's awesome!! Lol.
So- the changes I would personally like to see with the gifting feature as it develops are:
Being able to open more than 10 - as ive said in earlier post- perhaps 2 Extravagant, 3 Essential, and up to 5 of each of the 3 categories making a total of 20 per day possible if the right gifts are recieved would be great!!
The gift open and send buttons covering what your friend has last caught is a shame cos it was nice to check in on what people were catching before, so having the buttons underneath this info possibly?
The ability to delete the gift received & nog just as the sender would be good, so that we can tailor our gifts to suit without causing offence- the pop-up can still say gift received once its gone- doesnt need to say deleted.
Not sure if this is in line at all with what others think?
@AuroraKadavra I completely agree with you! Opening more than 10 would be great, but especially if we could delete ones we don’t want/need.
Until that happens, I’d say just send away. That’s what I do. As you said, it’s just nice to receive anything. For me personally, instead of prioritizing, I tend to go down my list and open 10 regardless of what they are. That way I open each person’s every few days.
I wish they would give some sort of flag we could attach as to a) what we are looking to receive and b) what types of gifts we would like to send to each friend. It stinks receiving an awesome gift from someone and forgetting who it was or just not being able to pay them back.
I have the same thing. I went to do some fortressing and everything I have received has been basic. I got 6 red spell books for myself, which is good going for me (I am too impatient and get bored of challenges) but I am disappointed in the gifts I have to give. But I eill give anyway and the recipient can choose whether to open or not.
@Magpie31 that is an astounding screengrab. I, too, am jealous! My area looks very similar to @kiheikid in that there's very little around.
I do get frustrated with how little is around and how infrequently I get gifts in inns or greenhouses. Yesterday I dined at inns about 12 times, but only got 2 gifts :( I do wish they were as regular as the runestone gifts
@Majikum I think the reason is balance. They are assuming that most people will visit about 10 inns for every fortress they visit, to stock up on energy. So the spell energy gifts are less frequent so that we don't get overwhelmed. But a little more regularity would be nice.
What happens when your gift queue is full, by the way? Does it push gifts out or does it register as full? I am curious, as I don't want to lose good gifts on days I am doing a lot of playing.
That makes sense for people in busy areas, I guess. Harder for those of us in the sticks 🤣 clearly I need to walk further afield.
I am not sure about the queue. I don't think I've hit 30 gifts waiting to give yet!
I think when u hit the que limit at 30 it just doesnt let you add anymore, so u could pick up an extravagant one at an inn but it wouldnt go in the gift 'vault', pretty much like your spell energy or ingredients vault does when full.
So on good days when ive hit lots of inns & greenhouses etc i check wen my list is near 30 & send some out- then carry on collecting.
@MrSciGuy thats good to hear u seem to be doing the same as me so i feel better now if u kno what i mean lol. Il just try to rotate & my apologies to anyone who I can't return a better gift to yet, but rest assured they are all in my notebook (seriously- i keep sooo much data from this game! Which reminds me i have a load of formidable pixie data to post on Lefays thread yet) so I will get a better gift back to people asap!
@Majikum i feel ya on that one- on the days where i only have time for a quik potter its disappointing to hit the inns like 4 times & get only 1 gift maybe to give. I think wel all find our flow with the new feature soon enough. I love looking at the pictures & imagining being there- i really want to travel atm- thats my main life goal right now. So seeing the pics just inspires that even more & i love it!!
One from @OriginalCaruso
https://community.harrypotterwizardsunite.com/en/discussion/3964/increased-gifting
feedback for @HPWUTeam @HPWULola re ingredient giftboxes ... you asked for feedback, so here goes:
because of the artificially low limit of only 10 giftboxes per day that any one player can open, that 1-in-10 slot for giftbox opening has become a valuable asset ... except that by awarding only 1 unit of an ingredient as a reward from the standard ingredient giftbox - for example, i opened one such giftbox just now and received 1 unit of baneberry - you (the game developer) have effectively turned an asset into a liability (or, less harshly, just a wasted 1-in-10 space). that 1 unit of baneberry is not going to help me or anyone else, because we can pick up baneberry (when available) from the map in bunches of 3 units and because it takes 6 units (combined with other ingredients) to brew a single Tonic for Trace Detection.
that single unit of baneberry is just taking up space in the ingredient vault if it cannot be used promptly to brew, and chances are great that i would pick up baneberry off the map in a bunch of 3 units before i receive 2 more units from opening ingredient boxes. so, instead, that single unit of baneberry gets “inventory managed” (right, deleted) and effectively i shorted myself 1 giftbox slot for opening today.
solution: reward ingredients, whether via giftbox or greenhouse harvest or pickup off the map, in bunches (greater than a single unit) consistent with recipe for their use in brewing applicable potion.
thanks for listening/reading (i hope).
I think increasing the number of gifts that you can open per day would be a lovely Christmas present.
My system is to open 10 from the top down daily, It takes a while to get through everyone.
I currently have over 10 people who have sent me gifts that i havent been able to get round to opening their first gift to me yet!! Admittedly I have quite a big friend list now, but still- i feel soooo rude having not opened those yet!! But its taking ages to get through them each day.
Ten is definitely nowhere near enough to feel like the gifting system works well.
Ive been sending loads! I potter a lot! So when i get to 30 in vault i send some out. But from my big list of friends sometimes theres not enough for me to send the 30 to cos they havent been able to open mine yet too!
Pleeeeease give us more to open @HPWUTeam !? A simple solution being 30. So you can collect & send 30 in a day at once, and open up to 30. That would work? 100 gifts a day max to send is just sorely missed out on by only 10 allowed to open. Then i could open down my list and get to see more pretty & amazing postcards!!
And btw- gotta totally agree with The Kid on the ingredients thing!! Eloquently stated & explained how it really becomes a disadvantage, which surely can't be right!?
I agree with the observations made by a lot of you. Obviously only being able to open 10! gifts a day is not working. Every day I fall further behind. I don’t really with the idea of throwing them out, that seems like it would just over complicate things. We simply need a higher limit on how many we can open.
@kiheikid I hadn’t even thought about the way the basic ingredients Gifts are really sort of pointless, as I usually just delete them if I don’t want them, but it does make sense to give them in at least the same amounts you would pick up on the map.
The main issue that I can see is just the limit to how many can be opened. That is the aspect that really needs to change ASAP.
I counted up yesterday after opening my 10 trying to work down the ones id not opened yet & i still have 52 unopened after that!! Its just going to take forever to get through & then the people we know well as friends are waiting too- which makes us feel worse!
At least at 30 a day i could crack the list in a couple of days, then restart so would be 3 days rollover again. So still leaving them for days but at min its into weeks! Its not like it would be a major advantage id be gaining- or anyone else im sure, cos many of the gifts are basic spell or ingredients, so hardly game- changing.
And for those not able to get out as much of send many gifts they would recieve from friends that vital life-line. Those of us who can get out are in a way just passing it along then.
So if we open 3 spell energy- yes we gain & can easily top up- but we pass on to those we know who need what, so it goes to them. Then we collect as normally did before gifting started. So I really think it needs upping to 30- ive seen my original request to up it & raised it now lol!
Anyone care to see my 30 & raise? Or should we fold at that 😂
Thank you admins that passed on one of the concerns so we can delete gifts. Now here's hoping they will tweak how many gifts we can open so I'm not plagued by grey buttons.
Clarification: delete gifts to send when it is full. Or have we always been able to do that and I was oblivious to that option?
@Li11ee delete basic energy gift if you want so you can more find extravagant gift, but don't delete extravagant gift...
@Li11ee I think you’ve always been able to delete outgoing gift inventory.
i appreciate the ability to delete outgoing giftboxes in one’s vault (though i do not pick up enough in one day to have had occasion to delete), but the real solution is to raise the limit of 30 giftboxes that one can send out per day. if you @HPWUTeam let us acquire up to 100 giftboxes a day for sending out, that let us send out that many. AND let us open up to one giftbox per friend per day, however many friends we are allowed to have and choose to have. that’s really it, plain and simple. if @HPWUTeam wants to lower the cap on the number of friends each of us can have, i don’t have an issue with that - it actually would be doing me a favor. the gifting process has become a game within a game, but it should not really take up so much time and attention that actual HPWU gameplay is affected
d’oh, that auto-correct !!
the sentence above reading “ if you @HPWUTeam let us acquire up to 100 giftboxes a day for sending out, that let us send out that many.”
should read:
“ if you @HPWUTeam let us acquire up to 100 giftboxes a day for sending out, then let us send out that many.”
When CD started I sent spell energy gifts to those friends who could receive gifts, and they returned the favor. Though the energy is quite small combined with energy on the ground it got me through the event! Thank you HPWU for gifting.
Sorry i didnt get out at all yesterday guys so hence the total lack of gifts! My apologies.
I went down my friends list opening so got 10 further down but it feels like forever to get to others i feel so bad - sorry guys, I'm trying!
Going out today for a good wander near daughters school so not my usual route, hoping the inns there will be kinder than mine have been on fri & sat they were evil!!
I have gifts to send, but noone to send to as they haven't opened my gifts. I still have 2 gifts to open today, but waiting for a more 'referred gift. I don't want to open a green gift....I want to delete those.
@implode8881 you must open gift before more open again. If you want extravagant, make sure find more gift again.
I delete Ingredient gifts whenever I prune my gift list preferring to send Spell Energy. Over the past few days I haven’t obtained any Essential gifts and I can’t remember the last time I obtained an Extravagant gift
@OriginalCaruso same here! Its been 3 days now of just ordinary gifts, and ive been going to new places & 3 different routes i take, but im finding many of the inns im getting unlucky as they arent giving a gift at all as i pass!
My apologies to friends that gifts from me lately have been either non-existent or ordinary! Im trying folks! I really am!!
@AuroraKadavra i just full of extravagant gift but i confused want to send gift...
And this is full of extravagant :
And luckily i got the potent exstimulo potion gift 🤣
Seems i am lucky huh?
@Yohanes12 - Looking good!
I am still short of decent gifts to give, played most of yesterday evening and finished the event except for bonus assignments
So, I offered to help someone out on here and left my friend code. I got a flurry of requests and now, for the first time ever, I have reached my limit on opening gifts so need to wait. I might have to trim a few down, maybe. I don't like not being able to send / receive easily.
I hope next update we need open gift expand up to 50 per day, so someone can get anymore open gift now...