This is the worst thing you did since HPWU exists. The Trace Charm made this game interesting and funny again. Now it´s comparable to the Trace Tonic and I´m really outraged, that I invested so much resources to skill the Trace Charm. Many more players think the same way and I´m sure if Niantic doesn´t reconsider this decision, many of them will leave.
This was a real punch to the stomach waking up this morning excited for the weekend and then reading that another great addition to the game has been removed. Dont you want us to play this game? You now “fixed” not one but TWO Trace Charm effects that made me want to play this game - adding insult to injury. You clearly don’t want us to enjoy this game and I play a lot and spent money on it☹️😡
edited September 2020#21404 September, 2020, 11:32 am.
HPWU was the first game that made me break a cardinal rule of mine...no in game purchases. Going through my purchase history, it was way more real money spent than I expected. I truly appreciated the knight bus and the gifting. But this? I have lost things because of bugs, poop happens. I moved on. I admit that I have lost resources on weekends because I misread a challenge. That was on me. I moved on. But knowing that about myself I made **** sure to research each node before I invested my books and for you to tell us we misunderstood the trace node? Wow. Thank you for the "compensation". But needless to say not one more real world dollar will go to Niantic. I can see all we can do is vent...no real worthy solution is coming.. so loss of real dollars will be the voice they hear .
Hello what about: "To clarify the above, there will be no changes to the SOS Training mechanics or node bonuses. There will only be changes to the text to reflect the intended benefits. "?
I am extremely disappointed in this. I was super excited for Wizarding weekend, and spent alot of time and energy to be able to maximize the potential to return the most fragments, earn more books, and improve my skills for other aspects of the game. This is an insult and quite frankly theft of time and money from players due to misrepresentation and changing things after the fact.
I hope the Niantic employees are enjoying the break. I just hope everyone spends some time to consider the changes being implemented and the effect of alienating the playerbase on the long term longivity of the game.
This is extremely frustrating and disheartening! This is very different than the proficiency clarification. In the case of efficacy, the GAME PLAY has changed, this is not a text clarification. If you are correcting something that was not working as originally intended, at least fess up to changing the game play and not saying that is it just a text change. Trust has been damaged and regardless of if people spent actual money or in game rewards, they have used resources for something that now has a very different effect than it did before the "fix". I think this will damage Niantic's ability to make money from HPWU. For players who don't stop playing altogether, they will be much less likely to spend money on this game.
I'm not one to easily complain. In fact, all the complaining in this community was getting on my nerves a bit. But you know what? I now understand. I really do.
You said: No changes to the game mechanics. Whoever said that to you, Lola, it was a lie.
Not once was it mentioned to us that the returning of high threat foundables was a bug. BUT you 'fixed' it, FIXED one of the best game mechanics so far, while the real bugs are still out there.
I was so motivated to improve my trace charm, I used potions and played A LOT to level up and unlock those nodes. I put in real money. I think it was about 60€ over the past weeks. Why? Because I LOVE this game, because it makes me happy, and I'm totally okay with investing money for a nice hobby, no matter what others might think about it.
Now? I feel punched in the face. I spent this money for literally NOTHING,because me levelling up and getting books won't improve my gameplay.
I don't effing care about the Trace Charm revealing some additional assorted ****. I can get assorted **** by running around, not paying a single cent on the game! It's worth nothing if I have only one Trace Charm per day and/or have to unlock this many trunks to MAYBE receive another one.
You nuked it, you really did. I'm so angry right now, because I feel like you took the game away from me.
Oh, and Lola? I'm aware this is not your fault and you should most definitely ask for a pay rise!
With all the issues in the past two weeks, I was still looking forward to maybe things working this weekend. And now this? You fix this awesome feature which had so many players psyched and not the ones making it harder for us to play? And my SOS skill tree choices were based on features I liked. And how do we know going forward if a cool feature is a cool feature or a bug? I've lost faith and the game is pointless because any strategy can be made worthless by a change like this.
Yeah, add me to the list of everyone and their mom that spent DADAB and RSB on this 'feature' only for you to clarify that it doesn't do anything, and too bad.
Also add me to the list of everyone that's going to stop playing until there's a fix for this major bait and switch.
Nice, now you just erased the original "Trace Charm Clarification" post so people cannot argue that you told us NO CHANGE IN PLAYING THE GAME WOULD BE MADE, JUST TEXT CORRECTION... unfortunely you can't erase your memories... just FIX THE "BUG FIX", before the Wizarding Weekend, ok?
It's honestly both a miracle and a pity that the DEV's of this game are able to breathe. You guys are literally clueless about maintaining a solid community in a game that's not even doing that well revenue wise compared to some other IP's. But i guess this is what happens when you go Actiblizzard-full-**** mode and start listening to shareholders rather than players. Trying to alienate everyone into playing POGO so you can milk some more money off of people, are you?
In sum, not only are you incredibly incompetent, but you are also lying, decieving human trash. Not a single mention about TC being "bugged" was ever made, no changes to gameplay were promissed, and then you pull this off? Ngl, i really hope your 7 day vacation turns permanent. You shouldn't even be allowed in any position other than toilet cleaners/vending machine refillers in the future, and even then you'd find a way to mess that up.
I care about this game, I really do. That is why I am so upset. I’m going through the stages if grief: anger, denial... I guess eventually I may even reach acceptance. But it will not be like before. You’ve eroded trust with these “bug fixes”. You can’t seem to get it together.
Having stated that "nothing would change in the game mode", you have well thought of modifying the amount of rare tracks available after the use of the trace charme, making it a refillable copy and perhaps even worse than a track finder potion.
Having such a confusing line of communication compared to actual airing is cheating
The resources invested in my skill tree are not even comparable to your "gift" for the typos that are still present.
All this generates a lot of frustration.
In conclusion it is disappointing to see that there are many answers in this blog and no one has yet provided an explanation for what is happening.
I've slept on it, and I'm frankly even more angry than I was yesterday. You specifically stated that there would be no changes in how the game was played, just text changes. And I defended the game, the developers, and everything, saying that the errors in the text were an honest mistake. And now, without warning, right before a wizarding weekend featuring a high level foundable, you COMPLETELY CHANGE HOW A VALUABLE ASSET WORKS. I've been playing since about day 2, spending significant amounts of money in the process, and I have never been closer to quitting than I am right now.
I'm begging you to give us some sort of logical explanation as to why you did this. And why you waited until right before an event where it is needed at it's original functionality to force this change down our throats.
So enhancing the trace charm is useless now. once you get that one extra fragment it's not worth the time to boost and in combination with the other nerf.
While I could at least, in part, forgive the foible in communication about how many bonus fragments the Trace Charm was supposed to award per trace-return, this latest change to heavily nerf the bonus rare traces that it reveals, with no avenue to even regain that functionality in the Charm, is completely asinine. I don't really care what the text says or said - no one does. You released a feature, and people spent a lot of time, energy and resources (both virtual and in some cases financial) investing in it, and enjoying it. Claiming your clarification was not going to change gameplay, and then doing something like this before one of your events... it really boggles the mind. So I'll tell you what. I'm gonna give you a softball here, and you can take it or leave it, but I suggest you take it. Let's knock out a few birds with one stone, shall we?
Have the "Knowledge is Power" (KiP), in addition to unlocking the reveal of a higher rarity trace, with base of +1, contain the text "Increasing your Proficiency in the Trace Charm can result in even more rare traces being revealed!"
Modify Trace Charm Proficiency (TCP), in addition to its current effects, to increase the number of rare traces revealed, as long as the player is at least level 8, and unlocked "Knowledge is Power" - not an unreasonable ask. Depending on desired game balance, you can either do +1 rare trace revealed for every rank of Proficiency, or even +1 for every two ranks of Proficiency, which would still yield a respectable maximum of 5 Additional rare traces (1 from KiP + 4 from TCP), once the player fully advances their Proficiency. You could display the current state of this bonus in the "Rare Trace Bonuses" section below "Rare Traces Provided" as "Bonus Rare Traces Provided #/4." If you wanted to get fancy with it, and encourage your players with incremental rewards, you could even have each rank of Proficiency give 0.5 out of that 4. If a player was at 2.5/4, for example, they'd get 3 rare traces for sure (1 from KiP, 2 from Proficiency bonus) and a 50% chance that a 4th would be rare -- and so on. Given the level of effort to achieve the higher levels of Proficiency, a count of up to 4 bonus rare traces seems perfectly reasonable. It also encourages players to develop an aspect of the SoS system (Proficiency) that's currently not very valuable at all after the first upgrade, where you unlock your +1 bonus fragment.
@TheDevs: As stands, you're leaving a lot of opportunity and money on the table. I know at least 8 people personally who've uninstalled your app already over this change, and more than half of them bought coins from you more than once. I myself am also much less motivated to play your game than I was a few days ago, and will definitely no longer support you financially until you demonstrate more customer understanding. You really should alter your course.
So once again we're hearing "we screwed up but we're not going to honor our promises OR refund your spent resources that are ridiculously hard to come by (RS books), but here, have some stuff that is super easy to earn in a matter of minutes".
Feeling a lot like Niantic wants us to stop playing. Bad enough I'm stuck at home (health issues). Now the one game I was still able to play from home is no longer playable. This is in no way a "fix".
I'm sorry but errors and changing the wording to something different don't go together. That is total ****. An error is misspelling something or bad punctuation. The wording was Crystal Clear. Changing how the trace charm fundamentally works is not even in that realm. This is low.
It's Voldemort level of behaviour.
I'd like everything in my SOS reset and all items spent in SOS returned to me when you all figure out what you are really trying to do here. I would have made completely different choices had I known this was going to be the final result.
Can we get all books back, and start over? This is Just stupid. So few books, and you LIE to us?! Reset the new talent trees, and give us the books back!
I’m so disappointed, angry, and upset. I have “gotten over” all the awful changes that have been made in the past, but this, this is too much. I was so excited about the new feature of the trace charm, but now I feel as though I’ve wasted so much time and resources. This is just one thing after another that makes me not want to play this game anymore. I hope you read all these comments and just do the right thing for the players and do what the nodes say they will do. Until then. I’m just flying through the events and collecting my dailies. I will not spend another dime.
I just tried the TC and found out about this "fix". now i'm just gonna fix my phone and uninstall the game. it's no longer fun, it's no longer rewarding, it's still full of bugs, nerf nerf nerf. i'm done
edited September 2020#23704 September, 2020, 08:01 pm.
And how many books and more, did we get in : make Up present for the last nerf you make with the trace charm. Wich totally destroy the only good in the game...
Yes this is a total let down. You “fix” a trace charm issue that had nothing to do with high level foundables appearing. You make it seem like that was a bug rather than just admitting you didn’t like how players were benefiting from this addition. It made the game much more fun for us. We spent who knows how many resources to level up this SOS feature all for you to nerf it. How about you reset all SOS back to square one and give us all our resources we invested back so we can put them to better use??
Also, how about instead of fixing text issues fix real game issues. I have opened several 5 km portmanteaus that immediately turn into a 2 km portkey reward!!! How has this not shown up on your known bug issue?? I have pictures right after opening that show a boot but with the coloring the kettle should have.
I’m nearly maxed out. This game has become a grind. I got a little new energy with the skills treee. I enjoyed the rush of the trace charms and what I could get. Now this is just going to be an irritant every time I see a glowing red streamer on the map, it will remind me how this SUCKS. Not sure I even want to play. I’m just looking at that massive skill tree and thinking about how long the DADA books will take. Not making me want to be a part of this. RIP wizards unite.
8 pages of complaints on This issue alone! This, on top of pages and pages, thousands upon thousands of complaints-world wide about glitches, lock outs, knight bus crashes, trace potions not working and the fact you dumped the combat training lessons because you were too lazy to write what you promised ( for months!) new ones.
Folks, it has become obvious that once a game has been introduced for awhile and gained a following- that the devs and company execs drop any interest in the game ($) and move on to develop another NEW game. They have 2 in the works that I know of.
Therefore, I suggest, giving a **** about HPWU or Pogo is a waist of Your hard earned time and money. Drop the games, or at least, stop giving them your money. Find another game app you like.
Ive played since 2016 on Pogo and since opening of WU...it’s angering and useless to continue to ask for
Una decepción total el funcionamiento del echizo de rastros, hemos invertido mucho tiempo para poder tener esas habilidades y nuestro preciados libros verdes que los se obtienen fatal para esto, se le quitan a uno las ganas de jugar total. El autobús fatal, da miedo utilizarlo por si te quedas bloqueado y lo que tenía bueno ultimamente el juego era el de rastros y lo habeis fastidiado , no hay regalo de compensación que lo arregle si tu pones un fumcion y la gente emplea todo su esfuerzo y recursos en conseguirla que lo quites así no tiene sentido si funciona, para ese funcionamiento no empleo libros verdes ni menos me planteó gastar dinero en este juego . Al final se quedar sin jugad
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This is the worst thing you did since HPWU exists. The Trace Charm made this game interesting and funny again. Now it´s comparable to the Trace Tonic and I´m really outraged, that I invested so much resources to skill the Trace Charm. Many more players think the same way and I´m sure if Niantic doesn´t reconsider this decision, many of them will leave.
This was a real punch to the stomach waking up this morning excited for the weekend and then reading that another great addition to the game has been removed. Dont you want us to play this game? You now “fixed” not one but TWO Trace Charm effects that made me want to play this game - adding insult to injury. You clearly don’t want us to enjoy this game and I play a lot and spent money on it☹️😡
HPWU was the first game that made me break a cardinal rule of mine...no in game purchases. Going through my purchase history, it was way more real money spent than I expected. I truly appreciated the knight bus and the gifting. But this? I have lost things because of bugs, poop happens. I moved on. I admit that I have lost resources on weekends because I misread a challenge. That was on me. I moved on. But knowing that about myself I made **** sure to research each node before I invested my books and for you to tell us we misunderstood the trace node? Wow. Thank you for the "compensation". But needless to say not one more real world dollar will go to Niantic. I can see all we can do is vent...no real worthy solution is coming.. so loss of real dollars will be the voice they hear .
Hello what about: "To clarify the above, there will be no changes to the SOS Training mechanics or node bonuses. There will only be changes to the text to reflect the intended benefits. "?
I am extremely disappointed in this. I was super excited for Wizarding weekend, and spent alot of time and energy to be able to maximize the potential to return the most fragments, earn more books, and improve my skills for other aspects of the game. This is an insult and quite frankly theft of time and money from players due to misrepresentation and changing things after the fact.
@hpwulola
I hope the Niantic employees are enjoying the break. I just hope everyone spends some time to consider the changes being implemented and the effect of alienating the playerbase on the long term longivity of the game.
This is extremely frustrating and disheartening! This is very different than the proficiency clarification. In the case of efficacy, the GAME PLAY has changed, this is not a text clarification. If you are correcting something that was not working as originally intended, at least fess up to changing the game play and not saying that is it just a text change. Trust has been damaged and regardless of if people spent actual money or in game rewards, they have used resources for something that now has a very different effect than it did before the "fix". I think this will damage Niantic's ability to make money from HPWU. For players who don't stop playing altogether, they will be much less likely to spend money on this game.
I'm not one to easily complain. In fact, all the complaining in this community was getting on my nerves a bit. But you know what? I now understand. I really do.
You said: No changes to the game mechanics. Whoever said that to you, Lola, it was a lie.
Not once was it mentioned to us that the returning of high threat foundables was a bug. BUT you 'fixed' it, FIXED one of the best game mechanics so far, while the real bugs are still out there.
I was so motivated to improve my trace charm, I used potions and played A LOT to level up and unlock those nodes. I put in real money. I think it was about 60€ over the past weeks. Why? Because I LOVE this game, because it makes me happy, and I'm totally okay with investing money for a nice hobby, no matter what others might think about it.
Now? I feel punched in the face. I spent this money for literally NOTHING,because me levelling up and getting books won't improve my gameplay.
I don't effing care about the Trace Charm revealing some additional assorted ****. I can get assorted **** by running around, not paying a single cent on the game! It's worth nothing if I have only one Trace Charm per day and/or have to unlock this many trunks to MAYBE receive another one.
You nuked it, you really did. I'm so angry right now, because I feel like you took the game away from me.
Oh, and Lola? I'm aware this is not your fault and you should most definitely ask for a pay rise!
With all the issues in the past two weeks, I was still looking forward to maybe things working this weekend. And now this? You fix this awesome feature which had so many players psyched and not the ones making it harder for us to play? And my SOS skill tree choices were based on features I liked. And how do we know going forward if a cool feature is a cool feature or a bug? I've lost faith and the game is pointless because any strategy can be made worthless by a change like this.
Yeah, add me to the list of everyone and their mom that spent DADAB and RSB on this 'feature' only for you to clarify that it doesn't do anything, and too bad.
Also add me to the list of everyone that's going to stop playing until there's a fix for this major bait and switch.
Nice, now you just erased the original "Trace Charm Clarification" post so people cannot argue that you told us NO CHANGE IN PLAYING THE GAME WOULD BE MADE, JUST TEXT CORRECTION... unfortunely you can't erase your memories... just FIX THE "BUG FIX", before the Wizarding Weekend, ok?
It's honestly both a miracle and a pity that the DEV's of this game are able to breathe. You guys are literally clueless about maintaining a solid community in a game that's not even doing that well revenue wise compared to some other IP's. But i guess this is what happens when you go Actiblizzard-full-**** mode and start listening to shareholders rather than players. Trying to alienate everyone into playing POGO so you can milk some more money off of people, are you?
In sum, not only are you incredibly incompetent, but you are also lying, decieving human trash. Not a single mention about TC being "bugged" was ever made, no changes to gameplay were promissed, and then you pull this off? Ngl, i really hope your 7 day vacation turns permanent. You shouldn't even be allowed in any position other than toilet cleaners/vending machine refillers in the future, and even then you'd find a way to mess that up.
I care about this game, I really do. That is why I am so upset. I’m going through the stages if grief: anger, denial... I guess eventually I may even reach acceptance. But it will not be like before. You’ve eroded trust with these “bug fixes”. You can’t seem to get it together.
Having stated that "nothing would change in the game mode", you have well thought of modifying the amount of rare tracks available after the use of the trace charme, making it a refillable copy and perhaps even worse than a track finder potion.
Having such a confusing line of communication compared to actual airing is cheating
The resources invested in my skill tree are not even comparable to your "gift" for the typos that are still present.
All this generates a lot of frustration.
In conclusion it is disappointing to see that there are many answers in this blog and no one has yet provided an explanation for what is happening.
Hahaha, at least they are reading, my posts keep getting deleted or filtered..
oh well, good riddance and goodbye
I've slept on it, and I'm frankly even more angry than I was yesterday. You specifically stated that there would be no changes in how the game was played, just text changes. And I defended the game, the developers, and everything, saying that the errors in the text were an honest mistake. And now, without warning, right before a wizarding weekend featuring a high level foundable, you COMPLETELY CHANGE HOW A VALUABLE ASSET WORKS. I've been playing since about day 2, spending significant amounts of money in the process, and I have never been closer to quitting than I am right now.
I'm begging you to give us some sort of logical explanation as to why you did this. And why you waited until right before an event where it is needed at it's original functionality to force this change down our throats.
So enhancing the trace charm is useless now. once you get that one extra fragment it's not worth the time to boost and in combination with the other nerf.
While I could at least, in part, forgive the foible in communication about how many bonus fragments the Trace Charm was supposed to award per trace-return, this latest change to heavily nerf the bonus rare traces that it reveals, with no avenue to even regain that functionality in the Charm, is completely asinine. I don't really care what the text says or said - no one does. You released a feature, and people spent a lot of time, energy and resources (both virtual and in some cases financial) investing in it, and enjoying it. Claiming your clarification was not going to change gameplay, and then doing something like this before one of your events... it really boggles the mind. So I'll tell you what. I'm gonna give you a softball here, and you can take it or leave it, but I suggest you take it. Let's knock out a few birds with one stone, shall we?
@TheDevs: As stands, you're leaving a lot of opportunity and money on the table. I know at least 8 people personally who've uninstalled your app already over this change, and more than half of them bought coins from you more than once. I myself am also much less motivated to play your game than I was a few days ago, and will definitely no longer support you financially until you demonstrate more customer understanding. You really should alter your course.
So once again we're hearing "we screwed up but we're not going to honor our promises OR refund your spent resources that are ridiculously hard to come by (RS books), but here, have some stuff that is super easy to earn in a matter of minutes".
I'm done with this game.
Feeling a lot like Niantic wants us to stop playing. Bad enough I'm stuck at home (health issues). Now the one game I was still able to play from home is no longer playable. This is in no way a "fix".
I'm sorry but errors and changing the wording to something different don't go together. That is total ****. An error is misspelling something or bad punctuation. The wording was Crystal Clear. Changing how the trace charm fundamentally works is not even in that realm. This is low.
It's Voldemort level of behaviour.
I'd like everything in my SOS reset and all items spent in SOS returned to me when you all figure out what you are really trying to do here. I would have made completely different choices had I known this was going to be the final result.
Also given the cost of the trace charm nodes, this clearly wasn't just fox XP. Give me a break.
Can we get all books back, and start over? This is Just stupid. So few books, and you LIE to us?! Reset the new talent trees, and give us the books back!
I’m so disappointed, angry, and upset. I have “gotten over” all the awful changes that have been made in the past, but this, this is too much. I was so excited about the new feature of the trace charm, but now I feel as though I’ve wasted so much time and resources. This is just one thing after another that makes me not want to play this game anymore. I hope you read all these comments and just do the right thing for the players and do what the nodes say they will do. Until then. I’m just flying through the events and collecting my dailies. I will not spend another dime.
I just tried the TC and found out about this "fix". now i'm just gonna fix my phone and uninstall the game. it's no longer fun, it's no longer rewarding, it's still full of bugs, nerf nerf nerf. i'm done
And how many books and more, did we get in : make Up present for the last nerf you make with the trace charm. Wich totally destroy the only good in the game...
Yes this is a total let down. You “fix” a trace charm issue that had nothing to do with high level foundables appearing. You make it seem like that was a bug rather than just admitting you didn’t like how players were benefiting from this addition. It made the game much more fun for us. We spent who knows how many resources to level up this SOS feature all for you to nerf it. How about you reset all SOS back to square one and give us all our resources we invested back so we can put them to better use??
Also, how about instead of fixing text issues fix real game issues. I have opened several 5 km portmanteaus that immediately turn into a 2 km portkey reward!!! How has this not shown up on your known bug issue?? I have pictures right after opening that show a boot but with the coloring the kettle should have.
I’m nearly maxed out. This game has become a grind. I got a little new energy with the skills treee. I enjoyed the rush of the trace charms and what I could get. Now this is just going to be an irritant every time I see a glowing red streamer on the map, it will remind me how this SUCKS. Not sure I even want to play. I’m just looking at that massive skill tree and thinking about how long the DADA books will take. Not making me want to be a part of this. RIP wizards unite.
8 pages of complaints on This issue alone! This, on top of pages and pages, thousands upon thousands of complaints-world wide about glitches, lock outs, knight bus crashes, trace potions not working and the fact you dumped the combat training lessons because you were too lazy to write what you promised ( for months!) new ones.
Folks, it has become obvious that once a game has been introduced for awhile and gained a following- that the devs and company execs drop any interest in the game ($) and move on to develop another NEW game. They have 2 in the works that I know of.
Therefore, I suggest, giving a **** about HPWU or Pogo is a waist of Your hard earned time and money. Drop the games, or at least, stop giving them your money. Find another game app you like.
Ive played since 2016 on Pogo and since opening of WU...it’s angering and useless to continue to ask for
your stuff back, they’re Marie Antionette.
Buenas noches.
Una decepción total el funcionamiento del echizo de rastros, hemos invertido mucho tiempo para poder tener esas habilidades y nuestro preciados libros verdes que los se obtienen fatal para esto, se le quitan a uno las ganas de jugar total. El autobús fatal, da miedo utilizarlo por si te quedas bloqueado y lo que tenía bueno ultimamente el juego era el de rastros y lo habeis fastidiado , no hay regalo de compensación que lo arregle si tu pones un fumcion y la gente emplea todo su esfuerzo y recursos en conseguirla que lo quites así no tiene sentido si funciona, para ese funcionamiento no empleo libros verdes ni menos me planteó gastar dinero en este juego . Al final se quedar sin jugad