fast KO in high chambers as professor
Zuzanna93
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Hi all!
So I'm a max professor. I usually solo a lot but I've also done my share of DV challenges.
When I do this, my first use of focus is to shield Aurors or give the proficiency charm. Which one I do depends on what happens in terms of another professor being there and whether focus gets passed on (and to whom).
But here's my problem: It usually leaves me without a shield as there's not enough focus to do that right away. Magi's are also not keen on reviving in the beginning because they need some focus for their power as well. But whenever I take on my first foe, even if it's just a simple pixie, it seems to take over 1/3 of my health with a single blow while I hardly seem to do any damage. I need a potion, either healing or strong/potent extimulo, to survive that first battle without getting KO'd. And I often need more to survive the next battles (I've had some battles with 3 aurors and me as only prof, then it can take a long time to shield everyone and give prof.cham before I shield myself).
I've seen people say that it's perfectly possible to do DV without potions, how is that for professors?
Do you shield yourself in the beginning? Wait before you take on your first foe? Just get KO'd and wait? Or is something not working properly and do I take more damage for some reason?
Later on in the battle everything is working nicely and I don't need potions anymore, only in exceptional cases.
Edit: and yes, I use protego ;)
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I am a maxed magizoo so have never played the role of professor but would like to ask you would it be easier to take on a death eater or dark wizard as far as their respective hit points? Instead of taking on a pixie?
hi @Zuzanna93 maxed professor here! Not sure if this is what other professors do but when I'm in dark v typically I'll wait for focus to cast proficiency, then shield an auror as a thank you and hope it was the one that passed the focus if there are two. If there are two I'll usually shield one first then myself and then the second, or both of them first then me depending on how many healing potions I have, then the magizoologist last. I've heard mixed opinions on who needs shielding first so this is just how I prioritize
@ClairabusGryff Professors are weak against Death eaters and Dark wizards. Pixies are easiest for us so when they are available as one of the first foes in such a high chamber, it's an 'easy' way of getting some focus. That's why I take them first, if I can. All the other foes would probably knock me down in two blows.
@CBG92, yes that's what I do too. I'm just wondering whether it's normal that even a pixie can knock me out so quickly when I don't have a shield yet. Do you experience that too?
Thank you for answering my questions @Zuzanna93. I personally prefer to play a DV with AAMMP. Magizoo’s have a lot to do to keep the team going so I personally feel it is best to have two Magizoo’s. One of us needs to cast the beast charm which costs 7 focus and the other needs to revive team mates. So that is how I see it in my head. In DV I will come out in the middle of goes to make sure no one has been knocked out and or revive them. But sometimes 30-45 seconds can go by if someone got taken down quickly. So I do my best to always be cognizant of that responsibility.
IMO a maxed out magizoo doesn’t need to be shielded in a DV until about a third to half the foes have been taken down.
Just my two cents...
I agree with @Zuzanna93, the pixie takes a much larger amount of health out of us professors than expected when not shielded, i fluctuate between shielding in AMP or APM, still not sure which way works best.
@Zuzanna93 yes they do which is why I try to have as many health potions as possible on hand when going into Dark V. I can't always trust I'm going to be passed enough focus so if I'm not I most certainly shielding myself first. If I can grab a pixie first before someone jumps on it though I still do cause they're an easy **** to get that focus
@Zuzanna93 oh but I should mention with a shield and some other enhancements, I believe from a teammate, you become pretty much invincible to them so I'm wondering if your team is part of the issue. Slightly off topic but werewolves are much, much worse lol
@CBG92 you'd think werewolves are a weakness with how much damage they deal lol
@swimfeather so so true lol
Werewolves are horrible 😅
Yes, I noticed that with enough enhancements I don't take damage anymore! Really nice 🤗 But that doesn't work straight from the beginning.
Ok, so it seems that even pixies are a bunch of nasty little creatures in DV. I'll have to change my strategy a bit then, depending on the amount of focus I get sent and shield myself first if it's not a lot.
@ClairabusGryff as a magizoo, does it annoy you that some teammates might need to be revived right at the beginning? Because that's the consequence if I am to shield aurors first, then there's just not enough focus left to shield myself as well and I get KO'd.
Usually in DV there are still over 2 minutes on the clock when the challenge is won so using potions does seem unnecessary, but that does lead to a KO for me.
I like to be the only professor in a team, because it makes it easier for me, no need to understand the tactic of another prof that I can't communicate with. But usually it's hard enough to get a reasonably balanced team together in the Knight Bus so if there is another professor, I'll go for it anyway. I've yet to lose my first challenge in a DV so I'm ok with that.
as magizoo i really wish no one died at first round. LoL
no one died at second round is amazing.
with upgraded healing potion now, i think healing potion is more worth it to brew.
but again as magizoo, i'm more into brew extimulo to pump up damage if necessary in fortress battle.
@Zuzanna93 It's one of the magizoo's jobs to revive, so that's ok. Usually at the end of the battle it becomes less important because teammates are shielded and not as likely to get knocked out anymore.
Actually for the magizoo it's "cheaper" (1 focus) and more effective (brings back full health) to revive than to heal (2 focus, health only partially restored).
I'm a fully trained prof and magizoo. As a prof I'll use healing potions if I'm in Dark V with just one magizoo to help him spare his focus. If there are two magizoo's I usually don't need to take healing potions.
@Zuzanna93 i don’t mind healing in the first round as @Lycindelle pointed out it is cheaper to fully revive someone as it is only one focus cost. So it doesn’t bother me if there are two magizoo’s as one can cast the beast charm. If there is only one magizoo it makes it difficult for us to revive and cast the beast charm which costs 7 focus.
I will tell you what does bother me is that in DV is when the Aurors and Professors only hex their foes and when there are five star irklings the amount of dodging they do can cost 5-10 SE not to mention the amount of time they dodge so I would request that aurors and professors hex anything five star and even a four star irkling if there is enough focus as those guys are almost as bad as a five star. A five star acromantula takes a while to take out also but I do understand that in the beginning of a DV battle focus is very limited so if there is a five star irkling or acromantula I will wait until another foe comes along.
My only other Magizoo feedback in DV would be when the battle begins sometimes there can be 2-3 elite foes and I would request people hold off on those until at least everyone has taken one foe down so that I can cast the beast charm and still have 5 focus left. What I frequently experience is the battle begins and an auror will take on an elite pixie and a professor will take on an elite death eater prior to me putting up the beast charm and they either get knocked out or their stamina is almost drained and now I have to revive them. So if everyone would only wait until the beast charm has been cast or play at your own risk. There are enough foes to tackle without having to hit those up first.
Just my two cents...any feedback is appreciated!!
One more thing I forgot to mention as a pet peeve. When it comes to foes and definitely elites STAY IN YOUR LANE!!!!! Don’t take my elite irklings or acromantulas if there are plenty of foes I won’t take an elite pixie from an auror so why take the elite irkling?? This seems to happen more and more frequently which in the dark levels for a maxed out magizoo an elite irkling or spider is easier for me to take out then a five star spider. Of course AFTER the beast charm has been cast.
@cgb92 I am maxed auror and maxed Professor. When I play as a professor I use a strong invigoration draught to shield myself and use any focus passed to me to cast proficiency or shields to aurors. Sure the healing potion is one way to go but you still need that focus eventually to get shields and proficiency up. Might as well use the invig draught to get it done faster.
@R0d3er1ck I've been thinking about that lately too, if I can get enough ingredients. Aurors are pretty good about passing it to me now so I always do proficiency first but it uses so much. I have a few left from past events though. Thanks!
Wow, some really good suggestions here!
@Lycindelle great idea to change strategy depending on the amount of magi's that are in a team! If there's only one Magi, I'll give a higher priority to shielding myself as well (if needed with some extra help from invigoration draught as @R0D3ER1CK suggested - another great idea, thanks! Why didn't I think of that myself 😅). If there is only one Magi, there's a good chance that there are two Aurors and two professors, so that means the focus for shielding aurors and casting proficiency charm can be shared. So in that case there should be enough focus to shield myself early in the game as well. If there are two Magi's, the chances of me being the only prof, having to shield two Aurors and cast proficiency, are higher, so then it would be acceptable to get a KO and be revived. Different case if there are two profs and one auror.
I know it's cheaper to revive than to heal. Sometimes I'm low on health and decide not to use healing potion, just let me get a KO, and then I see someone healing me and I'm just thinking, why?
@ClairabusGryff I will det.Hex any annoying foe I can find and have the focus for. Elites first, after that death eaters, werewolves, erklings and acromantula's. I have to admit I don't really pay attention to the amount of stars the non-elite foes have, I should probably do that more often. Thanks for the advice!
As a professor, it's clear to me that pixies are easier than werewolves. Dark wizards are easier than Death Eaters. But I'm still unsure whether Erklings or Acromantula's are harder, I basically hate both of them. Which one of the two is harder for you?
Also @ClairabusGryff yes, hands off the elites in the beginning of the game! They can wait, they won't run (and if they would, all the better!). Also better for me as professor, it gives me time to put a det.Hex on them. I know it's not a lot, especially on DV on elite foes, but all the tiny bits help, right?
And last, ClairabusGryff, you won't see me taking on elite erklings/acromantula's when there's anything else available! But elite pixies are for profs, not aurors ;) Let the aurors have the dark wizards/death eaters.
Also a tip of my own for aurors: Should you have focus left at the end of a challenge, it's rare that a professor like me can do anything with it. First check: does everyone have a shield? Is proficiency charm cast? Do all the foes that still need to be beaten have a det.Hex? If the answer to all three is yes, there's nothing, absolutely nothing I can do with the extra focus. Better so send it to a magi so they can heal some of the people still fighting.
as magi, while its better to have det hex on both erkling and spider. but if you have to choose among both. det hex the spider first.
the spider have higher stamina and magiz specialization on spider is bonus defence (meaning no additional damage from magi), while erkling with lower stamina than spider magiz specialization is bonus power (+25 power).
Ok, great, thanks @Kodokmag !
Det hex doesn't seem a lot at first sight.
But if a foe has a det hex on it, every bat bogey hex cast by an auror (the "cheap" one, that doesn't cost any focus) will trigger the det hex as well. This way an auror can cause 42 (43?) damage every five seconds which can be extremely helpful in the end of a battle when the last foes need to be taken down.
Unfortunately not all aurors seem to be aware of this.
@Zuzanna93 thank you for all of your insight! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I have a question for everyone engaged in this discussion- do you think it is worth the focus to hex any elite foe in a dark chamber? If a player is staying in their lane and waiting until the magi casts the beast charm then for me an elite can be taken down pretty quickly. So I personally would say to save the focus for the five star irklings and spiders.
Also @Kodokmag I personally say to hex any Five star irkling first. The reason is I have had them dodge three times in a row at three different intervals so the amount of time they take to take down can be close to two minutes. Yes, magis are very proficient at them but they take forever to take down and a lot of SE. But I hadn’t thought about how much stamina the spiders have so I would amend my statement above that both Re equally as important but I would still prefer the hex on irklings.
This discussion has helped me learn things from different players perspectives so keep up the great convo everyone!! 😃😃
@ClairabusGryff agree, erkling is a must for confusion hex (from auror) which have effect for negating its dodge.
While det hex (from professor) is more costly, usually cast at the very late of the challenge unless the professor is showers by focuses (or generously using invigoration potion).
Thank you @Kodokmag - I honestly have never looked at the different hexes so I will make sure to do that from here on out. So we are talking about similar items just from the other two different professions. 👌👌👌
@ClairabusGryff You're right. The hexes are most useful on four- or fivestar NON-elite foes. If bravery is cast by a magizoo, elite foes are easier to take down than the regular ones with the same stars.
Only exception: Confusion hex is welcome on every four- or five-star irkling (elite and non-elite)
So today I decided to try another profession so I spent some of my hoarded book collection and maxed out the auror. So I am trying to understand how to play that profession. I am playing lower levels by myself to figure out how everything works!
@ClairabusGryff that's something that's on my wish list as well! I think playing other professions really helps you to understand the game better and develop a betters strategry. Only I don't have enough scrolls and books yet to max another profession. Great to hear that you are able to do so!