The Calamity
I'm very interested to hear what people think about the Calamity. How might it be affecting Harry, Ron, and Hermione? Who are the Wizards that have caused it? I'd really like to see what we collectively think and know about what's going on....
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I'm on level 19 and I still have no idea about what the big picture of the calamity. is really about at all.
I have played all the Niantic games and I really liked that added story line. Would find it so interesting if you could do story telling in the Harry Potter Universe in the same way that it has happened in the Ingress universe! I don't know if Universal/Pottermore would be down with that but if they bought in, image Youtube videos and social media accounts that link into the game! Would be so fun!
On what was in the game. Loved coded message but would of been nice if there was a payoff for working it out.
JMTC
Since it is postulated that even memories can be stolen, I am wondering if those involved in the investigation and the effort to curtail the Calamity might actually be doing the bidding of the instigators of the Calamity without them knowing it?
P.S It would be great if we can re-read the information and conversations from the Mysteries that are collected in the Registry.
I don't think Grim fawley did it but as yet we have no real clues as to who else it could have been. I do think he was trying to find a spell to bring his wife back but I don't think he was trying to get revenge on the ministry. The picture of the daily prophet that they used to show the article about the London Five announcement threw me off. I assume everything is happening in the current time timeline but that issue of the daily prophet is from 10 or 20 years before the London Five went missing.
I have liked the story line so far, but realized I only have a few more mystery items to go before I'm done.
Does the story line continue after that, or does it just end?
I agree that I don't think Grim Fawley caused the Calamity intentionally. I'm also curious about the significance of the decoded message from Penelope (don't want to say what it was just in case others haven't seen it yet).
Grim’s a Hufflepuff and his wife Penelope is a Slytherin. This may just be my Gryffindor bias speaking, but Penelope is hiding something. 🤔
And I am still thinking, where are the London Five now?? Or there is another super strong dark wizard behind all this. 😏😏
I'm thinking the calamity was an attempt to reveal magic to the muggle world to start a war with muggles. And the confoundables were an attempt to contain the calamity but it didn't work out as intended. I think Grim suspects there is someone in the ministry that caused it and attempted to contain it, and he is leaving clues for us to piece together the mystery.
I think Penelope used a love potion to basically enslave Grim to do her bidding. She set him up as the fall guy. I think Penelope's mom planned this whole thing and the evidence for that will be uncovered by examining Penelope's broom.
Has anyone collected the story drops in the game?
I'm enjoying the story. I'm especially interested in the Grim and Penelope relationship, mystery, and events focusing on them. Which of course, are related to the Calamity. Cool stuff.
Call me suspicious but is it just me that finds it weird that Constance Pickering knows a lot about Grim and Penny's relationship. I think they are victims to a bigger conspiracy.
I love all the many ideas and theories in here that seem possible. If it could become more complex and conspiratorial it would be great. Currently it's hard to keep track of the story in bits and pieces of dialogue that disappear.
The way I think about it is relating magic to scientific theory is that there is a warp in space time or an intersection of timelines, that it's not as simple as an instance. Does this affect the actual past? It feels like when we return foundables those really confused characters are actually being returned to their original point in time and space. In the past did they go missing for a moment?
This brings to mind the whole Cursed Child and the time turner incidents
Is the Wizarding world lore taking a spin in the general sense towards a magical version of the sci fi ish time dilemmas?
I'm just entertaining these thoughts I personally am not convinced it's this far into that territory
Chelsidanene,
I like your way of thinking. There could be some conspiracy. We'll need our inner detectives for sure!
Aurelliuslee - there is indeed an element of Dr. Who-like time travel at work here. We see Harry and Ron snatched from a certain point in time.... but I think that is in the past. I am trying to piece together where WE are now in the HP timeline and how the actions we see in the world right now being caused by whomever is causing them relate back to Harry, Ron, Hermione, and others. My sense is that our actions are not without consequence.
If these foundables/cofoundables (f/c's) are being taken out of a specific time then I would assume that a timeline is created where they are missing and then once they are put back they go to the moment that they were taken. This then corrects the timeline and it's as though they were never gone. If there were f/c's that aren't found, the longer they are not found, and the closer that timeline gets to the current point in time, they may begin to disappear physically and in peoples minds.
I don't know if any of that made sense but I tried lol 😅
I have this absurd thought the Slytherin student who gets changed into a ferret. Is it possible this is a young version of Penelope?
that would ben awesome if true.
Personally I think that the Calamity is a time-paradox.
My theory:
So essentially, Grim causes a self-fulfilling and self-contained prophecy.
It is probably time to start speculating on what the Calamity could be.
Posted this elsewhere, but what do we think the Calamity could be? It at least gives us a place to start the investigation.
I think my caused the calamity but did not mean for it to be as powerful and harmful. I also think he didn’t think he so it for penelope perhaps to save her. There’s more to this I’m sure. i just wish i could go back and read all the notes that i have uncovered so far. be nice.
I found a great article from tor.com that analyzes the timeline for HPWU relative to the main series. Unfortunately, I can't post the link!
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How Harry Potter: Wizards Unite Connects to Harry Potter and the Cursed Child
It turns out that you can use clues from the new Harry Potter mobile game Wizards Unite to place it precisely within the timeline of the main books and their follow-up “eighth story” play. So when does Wizards Unite take place?
Right now.
(Spoilers for Wizards Unite and the Cursed Child apply.)
We’re still digging through the game here in the Tor dot com office, but a few things are apparent in the game right from the beginning. We’re getting our orders from an adult Hermione and getting advice from an adult Harry, so we’re clearly somewhere between Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows and Harry Potter and the Cursed Child. But now that Cursed Child has given us greater detail about the wizarding world in the late 2010s, we couldn’t help but wonder when the time-shattering storyline of Wizards Unite takes place.
The timeline
Okay, SO! Here’s what we know outside of the game:
Meanwhile, in the Wizards Unite game, we’re given these clues:
So if, as the Harry Potter Wiki says, Ministers of Magic can serve maximum seven-year terms, with the last election running in 2019, and Hermione is elected in 2019 and has already announced her intention to run by the events of Wizards Unite, then that puts us somewhere during the 2019 Minister of Magic campaign, likely in summer of this year.
Why summer 2019?
We don’t know much about the elections for Minister of Magic but we do know that they don’t take place in the first half of a year…thanks to the Battle of Hogwarts.
At the end of the main book series, Kingsley Shacklebolt is named Acting Minister of Magic after the Battle of Hogwarts in May of 1998. He is then elected officially to the position afterwards. We also know that Hermione’s election took place in 2019, and working backwards in 7-year terms puts an election in the year 1998. We know that Minister elections most likely don’t take place before May, since Shacklebolt couldn’t be officially elected until the next scheduled election came around again. (Otherwise why not elect him right then and there post-Battle?) This places wizarding elections in the second half of the year.
Since Wizards Unite is an immersive gaming experience, literally laying the wizarding world over the real world, that probably means that the timeframe of the game’s story is also the same as it is in the real world during the release of the game: June 2019.
Which also means that Wizards Unite takes place during Act 1 of Harry Potter and the Cursed Child!
What this means
So, that’s cool, but does it really affect what we already know about what happens in the Cursed Child? As it turns out, it might!
Here’s what we know, so far, about the plot of Wizards Unite:
Meanwhile, here’s what’s happening around the same time in the Cursed Child:
Therefore:
One other question…
If all of this is true, then what are some of the key players of the Cursed Child doing during Wizards Unite? Take Delphi “Diggory”, for example. If, at this point, she’s already started her plan, pretending to be the niece of Amos Diggory, then will she make an appearance later on in the game? Will we be the only ones who know what she truly is?
What I wonder is this:
Grim Fawley is described as a remarkably intelligent and hardworking person (source: "Grim's School Record" item), an outstanding Auror when still in the department of Magical Law Enforcement (source: "Grim's Work" item), later as an Unspeakable with clearance for the Department of Mysteries (source: "Unspeakables Badge")
He's griefing in the wake of the "London Five" incident... and there are several signs that he did "take action" (source: "Ministry Memos" item + "Incident Report" item)
Did he cause the Calamity Spell (Item "Grim Fawley's Journey" supports this)?
And more importantly, did the Calamity Spell _cause_ the "London Five" incident?
@Lucoire is this information from foundables that show up in the 'mysteries' tab? i don't have all of those yet.
@ace Yes, it is. 😊
I've completed all 3 chapters and then I pieced together my Theory
@Lucoire thanks!
Another question for you. What is 'Potter's Calamity?' HP seems to be imperiled and the Brilliant Event seems crafted to help him. What's going on?
@ace
I'm not entirely sure. But based on what we know about the Calamity Spell, it seems to
So if I had to guess, I'd say that the Brilliance-Events center on TIME and PEOPLE (eg. Harry Potter) and PLACES (eg. the dark forest) of some significance.
The "Dementors on the Quidditch field"-incident, the visual uniqueness of Hedwig, the sock that "freed" Dobby... all are things that shaped Harry into the Auror that he is at the time of the "London Five" incident.
So in general I wouldn't say that the "Potter Calamity" is crafted to help Harry. I'd rather say that whoever cast the spell wants to change the course of time by impacting the past - probably prevent the "London Five" incident by changing the past events and people that led to the incident.
The calmity has interesting timing with Ingress:
We are Nemesis. We who cannot be escaped. I am Myriad.
I have come to your world to tell you that destroying your researchers was just the beginning. They were messing with things they couldn't possibly understand.
And now it pains me to say that all of you Ingress Agents are following in their footsteps. Beginning July 11th, I will be taking steps to shut down the Portal Network. If you value your lives, you will not get in my way.
We will root out Hubris. Starting with your world, and then moving on to worlds beyond. Your time is up.