Gift Collection Limit
CeruleanGirl
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@hpwulola There have been many comments on the forums about how the 10 per day limit is way too low. Is this something that is being discussed? Is there a chance we may get it raised? Or should we not be getting our hopes up?
It is an especially glaring inconvenience now with the tasks to send gifts for the Christmas Calamity Part 2 Brilliant Event, but it is annoying all the time, not just right now.
Please convey our very earnest request to adjust this. Thank you!!
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I agree 100%
well said, @CeruleanGirl
Yes, please any more gifts would be appreciated. Maybe 5 from each type of gift plus 3 extravagant s a day so that would raise the total to 18 a day. I have a list full of extravagant gifts to and out but all my friends have u opened gifts from me and of course I can’t free up any space for people to send more gifts. It is a vicious cycle.
Please let us know to either A just drop the subject it is only going to be 10 or B the HPWU team is discussing different options. Really any communication would be much appreciated!
Still no progress on this discussion?
I haven’t seen a thing about increasing gifts we can open in a 24 hour period. I would love to hear if it is being discussed or not.
@ClairabusGryff - The absence of response tells me there will not be a change to gifting and I can see why. When WU started the biggest issue was spell energy which was rectified by Greenhouses giving spell energy. Assuming 10 spell energy gifts per day grants a minimum of 20 spell energy and up to 140 for extravagant gifts. Not forgetting sponsored towers now give spell energy too. Most likely dedicated players have increased their spell energy bucket too, mine is 525, a friend has 765 so I are able to ride out periods of spell energy famine far easier than when I started playing. In summary, WU does not generate the same income from selling spell energy from me as they did when I started playing
I appreciate spell energy is only one aspect of playing WU, but also consider runes. I have ~100 pink runes from events that I don’t have time or opportunity to burn through and with the ability to gift runes I am stacking up level 2 and 3 runes too so I have no need to purchase runes
I am not complaining simply stating facts, strikes me the initial game imbalances have been addressed and frankly with 41 friends I am struggling to send decent gifts anyway because I rarely have enough to go around
Personally I think the gifting is about right - for me it is enough anyway
Completely agree, 10 is too low.
I find this thread interesting.
@OriginalCaruso has built a logic argument spiced with (anecdotal) evidence.
And the others are (for the most part) playing "wishlist" - without presenting any evidence or argument as to WHY the current state is unsatisfactory. (and no, "I feel it is too low" is not an argument. That's an emotion, which per definition is irrational)
There isn't even an attempt of a CONVERSATION.
I just can’t imagine ever receiving gifts, and then openly sharing the opinion that I should receive more gifts because I am not satisfied. Reminds me of Dudley Dursley, honestly. It is just a game though, so whatever. Keep demanding more if that suits you. Maybe you’ll get your way.
I just feel guilty every time I see so many unopened ones 😅 I feel like I either need to reduce my friends list so I don’t get so many or increase the limit to closer to 15-20. Sometimes there are days when I can’t even give away gifts because so many haven’t been able to open the ones they already have. And since we have a limit on 30 that we can store for gifting - that can fill up fast.
@OriginalCaruso thank you for taking the time to write down your thoughts and I agree with you whole heartedly. I had originally thought the exchange of gifts was going to be a limited time thing. I though it was going away at the end of the holidays honestly. But HPWU Lola clarified that gift giving is here to stay.
I get what you are saying about rectifying the imbalances in spell energy being addressed at this point in the game. And I agree with that statement. My spell energy level is now at 265 but wow you have 525 which is impressive.
I personally had proposed that we get to open 15 gifts a day of which 5 would be from each bucket, 5 SE gifts, 5 greenhouse gifts, and 5 runestone gifts as to not have a way of taking advantage of the system if you will. Because in my experience people always find a way to take advantage of a system. Which then in turn rules are drafted and created because of the less then 1% that abuse the system. IMO. My plan felt fair and increased opening gifts by 50% and made it more balanced if you will.
since gifting has started I have noticed that finding extravagant gifts goes in cycles or waves. Some days I am able to locate that inn That is giving out extravagant gifts and sit there (time permitting) and gather as many as I can to send out. But I haven’t been able to locate one in about 5 days now. (So sorry to all my friends here that I haven’t been able to send out an extravagant gift recently to) Yesterday I played in a highly dense inn/GH/fortress area for about 2.5 hours and hit up approximately 60 inns and never once got above 6 SE per gift and never got more then a regular gift to give and played around 20 fortress levels and didn’t get a single extravagant gift. And the day before - same thing. Actually yesterday around 90% of the inns I hit up gave out what I call tobasco sauce bottles worth 3 spell energy. Even the largest of inns. So that is just the way the cookie crumbles. As I have other days where I only get chicken dinners (10 SE).
As for being able to open 10 extravagant gifts a day I don’t know how a wizard could keep that sustainable. But I guess it is possible. From the lovely friends on here I get on average one a day and save them to open when I have a BBE going.
In closing, since gifting is here to stay, I am grateful for the gifts I do get and personally I prioritize runestone gifts since I am a Magizoo and need 170 or so red spell books to finish my lesson plan so that is my personal preference. Secondary to that is spell energy as where I work there is a fortress which spans all the way to my office so I am lucky and that is why I play around 10 battles a day. But there is no spell energy POI’s close to my office and I have one of those jobs where I rarely get to leave the office. So I try to go into the office with my spell energy over 265 and play all work day then on the way home I have my pattern of inns and GH I hit to recharge SE and also harvest my leaping toadstools.
But I digress this is just my HP business model if you will. Everyone’s is different.
@Acumen i hope I have never see someone on this forum coming across like Dudley Dursley!!!! They would probably get a community/forum tongue lashing!!! Since gifting started I am of the mindset it is always better to give then receive. Which is why I work so hard to find extravagant gifts and I strategically send them out to people that need them. I am just grateful that the HPWU team has rolled out gifting and it is here to stay. Also I am very grateful to everyone who takes time to send me a gift. So again, thank you HPWU team for rolling this out and if the gifts per day we can open is a dead thing like OriginalCaruso stated above then I will not bring it up ever again.
I feel you @LadyRedIII and @ClairabusGryff. I hope you know I'm just a nerd who loves any opportunity to reference part of the story, and not actually passing judgment. It is just a game, after all. 😁
😂 @Acumen whew! Was worried for a minute there about an impending judgment day 😅
@ClairabusGryff I play the game similarly. I love runestone gifts (but for different reasons - I’m an auror). I have a routine with a lucky hot spot that I frequent. My town has a visitor center complete with 2 fortresses, 3 Inns, and 1 GH and always plenty of confoundables to gather. Then I hit a couple Inns on my way home to compensate for the random confoundable I return along the way. IE - I get home full of SE lol. However I’m only up to 105 so I can’t even quite comprehend the 500 plus some players have 😂 (ahem @OriginalCaruso )
@Acumen i love HP nerds and the fact that so many wizards here are able to reference our beloved storyline. So thank you for the humor.
@LadyRedIII sounds like we play similarly! Maybe we should start a thread on how people play daily. What is their personal playing model daily? How do they stack their potion cauldron, etc, I believe you can learn something from everyone - even if it’s what not to do!!
Well I understand a lot of everyone’s plus striations on the getting of more gifts in some aspect. But I seem to be fine with what I get. I can’t seem to open a lot of them anyway because most of the time I have enough energy to begin with. Then I have enough ingredients most of the time since I have to wait until I use the potions that I have on hand. Once I already placed the things in the greenhouse to to grow I am going to have wait for them to mature. I mean I have so many gift at the moment that I can't open with the 76 friends I have now. I mean I have downsized down from the 200 that I had because the simple fact that I am constantly going to the fortress and to the green houses on several occasions just to be able to gift them on a regular basis.
But of course I am not complaining that you guys are in the wrong for wanting more gifts to open that’s on you I’m fine with the way it is because I can’t really open the ones I already have because I stay at a high level of energy points on a regular because I frequent the fourth kisses and the green houses and the Inns as frequently as I can so I can keep a steady energy source when needed.
I really enjoyed putting in the work to go get my energy and to plant my ingredients and grow them it’s fun I mean I don’t appreciate them doing this gifting it’s awesome to help my friends I mean the 10 is OK with me but if you guys are pushing for more so be it but come on guys it’s a game and It's part of doing the work that makes it fun. The gifting🎁 was to be an incentive and a way to help your friends.
But of course this is just my opinion I’m not knocking anybody’s request or concern over this gifting but I just wanted to put my little two cents in it but I’m not requesting any more gifts I’m cool with the 10 I’m having a blast.
oh by the way anybody on my gift list if I haven’t opened it a gift as I mention it’s because all of my ingredients my potions and my energy is always kind of full so I can’t open things but I will be opening some gifts soon and of course I will be sending you a gift soon so have a great new year and I’ll may your wand always be steady and your spells land strong and true.
My mindset on the number of gifts is based on my opinion of which sort of friendship I want:
Do I want 50 friends, where I know and like all of them a little but but none of them really well - that you don't really spend time with that often (low-maintenance-friendships)
Do I want 8-10 friends that I know and like REALLY well, so well that you understand them without words - that you know how to make them smile (friendships that you LOVE to invest time and thought and effort in building)?
Gifts in HPWU to me are a way of connecting to friends, building and strengthening connections... but how meaningful is that gesture when you do that with 40 people?
So I'm fine with a limit of 10 because I believe that it's better to focus on a meaningful few than to gift "spray and pray"-style into a large crowd.
@Lucoire - IIRC Friends Listed achievement requires 20 friends which is a root of the problem. I have 42 friends but in truth interact with a handful and those whom I consider I have a relationship with get the best gifts
@LadyRedIII - My friend has 765 spell energy capacity... Yes 525 is a lot and probably excessive even, but it depends upon how many opportunities I have to recharge which can be quite variable
@Lucoire @Acumen My original post was in part simply a question as to whether they were considering raising the gift limit or if it was not something they intended to change. The point I was making was that if it was going to stay as it was, could they please let us know that so we could stop asking and making suggestions about it. The other point I made was that, at the time of my post, the limit was making it a bit difficult for many people to achieve the tasks they were giving us.
I also very politely asked them to consider a change.
I don’t see how my questions and comments were in any way “emotional” or “irrational” as they were merely polite and inquisitive. Nor do I see how they could be seen as “demanding” more gifts, as the desire for more gifts was not the point, but rather the hope to be able to accept the gifts we are being sent without having to let them sit for days or weeks because we are so limited in how many we can open versus how many we receive.
I hope this makes my motivations for my original post more clear for you. Thank you for your input.
Sorry for making you feel attacked, @CeruleanGirl. That wasn’t my intention. I was just having fun, but it was in poor taste to crack jokes at the expense of others. I should know better, but I don’t. I’m really just a chimpanzee who wears clothes.
@Acumen It’s okay. No harm done. 👍
Wow, Llama to chimp in one day,! @Acumen you really are going to have to teach me a better spell for transfiguration!
@ClairabusGryff thats a great thread topic!! Start one!
@Lucoire i get what you are saying about the quality of friendships in the game. I just have a guilt complex and feel guilty for deleting anyone to slim my list down. And then I feel guilty when gifts sit because I can’t open them 😅
like several have already stated - I rarely have need for SE gifts (unless it’s extravagant or a CD day), even with my low SE amount. Ingredients- I’m like you - I am always to the brink on ingredients because I gather every time I go out for my dailies and my potions vault is kept pretty full on a regular basis.
however - I love runestone gifts 🤩 💎
lol. Anyway great thread @CeruleanGirl I’m sorry if you felt that people were being negative. I completely understood your post and agree that it would be nice to know if those limits were possibly going to be changed at all. Good question!
@Acumen 😂
🐒<-🦙 seems like a busy day for you lol
The llama charm is easy, @Bormacska. Just move your wand as if you're checking off an item on a list and recite the incantation, "No prob-llama."
Just remember that it's "no prob-llAma" not "no prob-llamA."
The chimpanzee charm is a little more difficult, as it is mostly accidental and involves flinging actual p-o-o. 😬
@Acumen no wonder! My emphasis was on the wrong syllable! 😉 LeviOsa always got me as well! 😅
The chimp I usually avoid, in fact the shield charm is, "not my ****, not my zoo.". Keeps most of the 💩from being flung in my direction. 😂😂.
The Llama however... Will definitely try that one out!
Well said @CeruleanGirl ...I get where you are coming from totally. I would like to know if the HPWU team is discussing upping the number of gifts we can open or if they aren't discussing it then we need to collectively drop it. An answer either way would be nice. On several occasions I have suggested people being able to open 5 from each bucket of gift type, SE, greenhouse, or runes. Which would be 15 gifts a day a 50% increase.
I like many others had the maximum number of friends and with 200 friends it takes 20 days to get through all of the gifts which is just a nightmare to manage for me, so I am adopting what some people on here are doing, culling down my friend list to people I interact with regularly on this forum as I don't have any real live family or friends who play the game so my friends are all "virtual" if you will. My goal is to cut it in half by the end of January which shouldn't be too hard as it appears a lot of people aren't playing anymore. I just hate the idea of not opening a gift someone took the time to send to me as I feel like I am being ungrateful.
The gifting was meant to be an enhancement to the game, not something that causes stress or makes people "worry", which I am a worrier by nature so I will do what folks have recommended.
I don't think you were asking for more "gifts" from people but more like troubleshooting. During the 12 tasks of Christmas we had to send out what was it like 20 or 30 gifts. Which when your list is full and people haven't opened your gifts due to the fact that we can send out a MAXIMUM of 100 gifts a day but open 10, or 10% of what we can send out it makes for a bottle neck and makes achieving the required task a bit of a challenge. The most I send out once a week when I play HARD is between 60-80 gifts, I have never hit 100 even thought I tried very hard to hit that number.
That's the problems with words on a screen, people read into them sometimes and don't fully understand what you were meaning. But I get what you were saying because I was asking the same thing. At this point I am going to cull back my list to people I interact with and go from there. I wish you the best of luck!
... some types of "announcements" may have legal implications (in the sense "if they announce something that they don't follow through they can be sued") in the US, just to keep in mind.
All jokes aside, I agree with others who've shared the opinion that quality is better than quantity. I also agree that the current limits are unlikely to change. Even if the open limit is increased by 100%, from ten to twenty per day, I would still find it difficult to stay on top of ongoing gift exchanges with a hundred or more friends. In my experience, having tons of 'friends' who aren't real friends on any social platform does nothing to improve quality of life, and often has a negative impact on one's emotional health. This platform is no different.
I have thirty-six friends in the game. Twenty-four are local pals and acquaintances. A few of them play daily, but most just play occasionally. The other twelve are nice people I met through this community forum and, in a couple instances, their spouses.
Despite maintaining a relatively small list of friends with many of them being casual players, I still receive twice the number of gifts that I am able to open each day. So honestly, thirty-six is still more friends than I really need to have, but not so much that it's overwhelming. I'm able to open a gift from anyone within a day or two, and I haven't had any issues with being able to collect, open, or send out enough to meet event requirements. A handful of my friends send me premium gifts on a regular basis, and I respond in kind. As a result, the gifting aspect of the game has been a source of pure joy and no stress at all.
I've read similar thoughts from other players who keep a small list of friends. They love it. Gifting improves their overall game play experience, and causes them no worry at all. On the other hand, nearly every post I see from players who have one or two hundred friends talks about what a headache it is, that it's a source of inconvenience, or that the design is fundamentally broken.
Sometimes, we're not satisfied with how something works. This is natural. Everyone feels that way about something or another. However, rather than wishing for that thing to change, it is often better for our peace of mind to change our own behavior. If you have a huge list of friends, slash the heck out of it. You won't hurt anyone's feelings, as you've probably never interacted with most of them more than once or twice here on the forum, if at all. In fact, you'll probably be doing them a favor because they too are stressed over the insane number of friends they've added.
I'd be surprised if anyone official shared info with us about their discussions of feature changes. If they tell us about things that might happen and then those things don't end up happening, there will be a certain number of folks who'll be disappointed and upset. I expect that this is why they generally just announce things that are certain and happening soon.
The biggest exception to this that I can think of is adventure sync. Lola told us months ago that it was coming soon. I don't know why it hasn't arrived yet, but I'm quite sure it's not just that the team doesn't care. But that's the impression that some people may have because there has been no explanation of why it's still not here. If they regularly shared things with is that were under consideration then there would be a steady stream of disappointment when these things didn't come to pass or changed before being released.