Impossible Spell Books

KillercatladyKillercatlady Posts: 3 ✭✭
in Feature Requests #1 latest comment 27 September, 2019, 07:49 am.

I recently commented on a discussion post about spell books, however, I think it needs addressed until it gets fixed. I am currently ranked 26 in the Challenges Registry, yet still only receive 2 books for moving up to the next rank.

There should be an easier way to receive spell books so that I'm not stuck in moving up in my profession. I'm currently in need of 14 spell books to complete a single lesson and it's near impossible to do so.

There are multiple ways to fix this issue

  1. Give out more spell books as you move up the rank in Challenges.
  2. Give a few spell books when you move up a level.
  3. Give one spell book for completing 1 or 3 or 5 wizarding challenges.
  4. You should be able to buy spell books if you need to in order to move up in your profession. (The only things you cannot buy in Diagon Alley are spell books, restricted books, and scrolls. I understand not selling restricted books and scrolls, but you should be able to buy spell books with gold if nothing else.)

Either way this needs to change so that people can actually complete a lesson in their profession.



  • WhitehorsemattWhitehorsematt Posts: 125 ✭✭✭
    edited September 2019 #304 September, 2019, 05:35 pm.

    @Acumen It's very true that you get more challenge XP for higher challenge levels, but don't forget that there is significant increase in the number of books needed per lesson as you move down the tree as well as needing more XP per level.

    I'm at the point where I need to play roughly 150 challenges at the highest level I can do without potions to get my next lesson and this will only get worse as I progress.

  • DubiousAffairsDubiousAffairs Posts: 235 ✭✭✭
    #404 September, 2019, 05:42 pm.

    Fortress Fights => Books => Skills => Fortress Fights => Books =>Skills...

  • PunkyfinsPunkyfins Posts: 202 ✭✭✭
    #808 September, 2019, 04:22 pm.

    For obtaining red spell books I found @ZookiTabooki 's topic very helpful. It's a lot of spell books, true, but I'm in no rush either ^^. Link to the topic below.

  • DrewCassowaryDrewCassowary Posts: 6 ✭✭
    #908 September, 2019, 04:51 pm.

    It is NOT impossible to earn 14 Spell Books. It requires hard work and dedication (that's part of the **** Challenge and reflects the reality of learning a lesson...think of how long it took you to finish a class in school). You are free to apply yourself. But I understand that some people don't have the grit to earn enough Spell Books to fully level up their profession. That's ok. The game designers made it so that those people can still enjoy the overall game: fortressing, brewing, growing herbs, and returning foundables.

  • DubiousAffairsDubiousAffairs Posts: 235 ✭✭✭
    edited September 2019 #1008 September, 2019, 07:01 pm.

    @Digitalis Technically, you can buy pretty much anything else in the game. And if you can buy potions, runestones, energy and storage, it's pretty much the same, apart from the time spent, which gets ridiculous as the levels get higher.

  • RelaxLahRelaxLah Posts: 64 ✭✭
    #1109 September, 2019, 12:54 pm.

    loved and fully support this suggestion

    "... give out more spell books as you move up the rank in Challenges."

  • DubiousAffairsDubiousAffairs Posts: 235 ✭✭✭
    #1209 September, 2019, 01:13 pm.

    @DrewCassowary Our characters are adults with jobs requiring high levels of qualification, they already finished school.

    According to the Cambridge dictionary : Grind : a difficult or boring activity that requires a lot of effort.

    Indeed, it is boring. Fortresses offer a very limited number of foes to battle, it's always the same thing, with a different skin on. And you can even put in a high-level rune and not get any Family Fragment from it (or something you've already completed), meaning that those 100 Family points you earned to get it were in part lost. I really don't like Fortresses. But they're required for the Daily, and to get some of the Foundables.

    At the moment, if the requirements didn't get any higher (which they do) at level 43 I would need 7*880 = 6160 points to get 14 books. And I need far more than just 14 books to finish that course.

  • CaeleonCaeleon Posts: 270 ✭✭✭
    edited September 2019 #1309 September, 2019, 04:18 pm.

    Cambridge dictionary : Grind : a difficult or boring activity that requires a lot of effort.

    I spend my day today sifting through 5493 minutes of delays and putting them in the right dossiers. And I have six more shifts to go. So, while I don't mind putting the effort in leveling, my boss pays me to grind. If they want me to pay them, they need to scale the rewards. It's a mobile game, not a Korean MMO.

    If they want people to stay and be loyal, provide content and involving gameplay. So what if there are a few people who rush to the end? They are in every game. Don't use a grind to slow down people, it backfires in the end.

  • WerewolfChaserWerewolfChaser Posts: 648 ✭✭✭✭
    #1409 September, 2019, 04:49 pm.

    @DubiousAffairs Here's a link to a spreadsheet that gives the xp requirement for each profession:

  • Ve225Ve225 Posts: 100 ✭✭
    #1509 September, 2019, 06:14 pm.

    Currently I am at 30level auror. And i only completed a couple of the lesson that require soell books. I used my scrolls first though. And then when i got enough spell books i would use them on whichever branch lesson i deemed important

  • RelaxLahRelaxLah Posts: 64 ✭✭
    #1611 September, 2019, 12:27 am.

    I have 574 scrolls and growing but not enough spell books to use them

  • DaybatDaybat Posts: 4 ✭✭
    #1711 September, 2019, 01:16 am.

    There is currently no reward that I'm aware of for completing dailies...perhaps a spell book or two for x number of consecutive completions?

  • LucoireLucoire Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #1811 September, 2019, 09:03 am.

    @Daybat The reward for completing dailies is Gold.

  • DaybatDaybat Posts: 4 ✭✭
    #1912 September, 2019, 07:26 am.

    Lucoire, Gold can't buy me love...or spell books. 😁

  • PamdmPamdm Posts: 70 ✭✭
    #2014 September, 2019, 04:27 am.

    I am fine with keeping the progression slow, but right now it is too slow!

    Few gold achievements like defeat 4000 foes should give 15 spell books rather than just scrolls.

    And throughout the month, the dailies give just 3 spell books on one day. That should definitely be increased

    And add in a story and like 5 books each community day and players would be much happier and motivated.

    Right now it seems to be a losing battle....more so with each passing day.

  • TaliDpTaliDp Posts: 3
    edited September 2019 #2116 September, 2019, 10:19 pm.

    I would love a red books reward for prestiging any page (1 to bronze, 2 to silver, 3 to gold).

    As a solo player is very dificult grow up in challenge level.

    I have around 66% scrolls i need to max up as professor but less than 25% of red books. I am a medium player (level 30, play around 1 hour daily) and with this change I would get only 17 more red books at this moment but It would motivate me a lot for search certain fragments.

    When more lessons arrive the problem will be bigger.

    Sorry for my very bad english

  • ZookiTabookiZookiTabooki Posts: 637 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #2216 September, 2019, 10:26 pm.

    @TaliDp Welcome to the forum! Never be sorry for doing your best to communicate; and there is nothing wrong with your english. Red books are the most challenging element in this game. It's designed that way so you don't get too powerful before you can handle it. 😉

  • CeruleanGirlCeruleanGirl Posts: 495 ✭✭✭✭
    #2320 September, 2019, 01:39 am.

    I agree that getting spell books should be challenging but not this challenging. At the very least, the number of spell books you receive from leveling up in challenges could go up at least a little bit. I just hit level 50 in challenges, which I saw as at least somewhat of a milestone, and what was my reward? Two spell books. Kind of a let down. I received the same number of spell books for getting 1000 challenge XP as I have for every other level. It is not a lot of incentive to continue doing challenges to be honest. If anything, it makes me not want to bother.

  • kiheikidkiheikid Posts: 2,168 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #2426 September, 2019, 05:42 pm.

    i would suggest allowing us to trade in X scrolls for 1 red spellbook, with the X:1 ratio to be determined sensibly

    maybe X = 50 ??

  • MtPolluxMtPollux Posts: 798 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #2526 September, 2019, 06:26 pm.

    50 scrolls per spellbook is definitely too cheap. If this sort of exchange were ever considered it should cost much more, perhaps 150 or 200 per book.

    Having said that, I don't think that any change should be made. I suspect that in the big picture we will eventually have other lessons to learn and I think all of those extra scrolls will be needed eventually. If people are allowed to trade away all of their scrolls now for a few extra books, I guarantee that there will be tons of people down the road complaining about how it's unfair that they have fewer scrolls than other players and that it should be easier for them to get more scrolls.

  • CeruleanGirlCeruleanGirl Posts: 495 ✭✭✭✭
    #2627 September, 2019, 06:00 am.

    I don’t really understand why some people are saying that it should remain so immensely challenging to get spell books. Yes, they should be more difficult to get than scrolls, obviously, but why would anyone prefer it to be as difficult as it is? No one is suggesting that they start handing them out ****-nilly. Just that maybe small changes could make it less frustrating. For example, the challenge level up reward could go up by one spell book every 10 or 15 levels. Why would anyone object to something like that? It baffles me.

  • WerewolfChaserWerewolfChaser Posts: 648 ✭✭✭✭
    #2727 September, 2019, 07:49 am.

    Scrolls have never been a problem. I have spent many scrolls on both other professions that are scroll only.

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