Anyone else notice inn nerfs

DrPantsDrPants Posts: 11 ✭✭
in General Questions #1 latest comment 12 January, 2020, 12:29 pm.

Yesterday the inns by my coffee shop were blue inns. Today they're pink. Anyone else notice nerfs to inn colors near them?

I think i caused it because I was hitting those inns pretty hard while working at the coffee shop 5 days a week. 😆

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  • LucoireLucoire Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2019 #207 August, 2019, 05:07 pm.

    What makes you think that a conversion from blue to pink is a "nerf"?

    (also, maybe it is a POI-dense area, so it would be reasonable to assume that there is a reason for the change?)

  • CraeftCraeft Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #307 August, 2019, 05:14 pm.

    @Lucoire - It would be considered a nerf because pink inns have the lowest rewards. Therefore, it means that those inns had been downgraded (aka nerfed).

  • LucoireLucoire Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #407 August, 2019, 05:20 pm.

    @Craeft Oh, you refer to the "Ministry A" Inn as "Pink". That makes sense, I thought he was talking about "Puddifoots" 😅

  • CraeftCraeft Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #507 August, 2019, 05:34 pm.

    Puddifoot's is the pink inn.

    It only offers X3 energy.


  • DogoutlawDogoutlaw Posts: 1,928 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #607 August, 2019, 07:51 pm.

    I have some here (Puddifoots) that very rarely give Honeyduke's bar, but most offer only three SE items (tea and cake). Three Broomsticks is definitely better on average. But to the original OP's post, if you're in an inn dense area, it might make sense for the change. Trying to even things out.

  • CraeftCraeft Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #707 August, 2019, 07:55 pm.

    My opinion is they're trying to "even things out" by going the wrong direction (if that is their intent). With spell energy being the biggest complaint regarding this game, taking some away from dense areas instead of giving more to sparse areas is the wrong way to go. I'm not saying this to be hyperbolic. I've been gaming long enough to know that it will drive people away. When they can't get the main necessary resource in a game, they will move on to something else without much hesitation.

  • LucoireLucoire Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #807 August, 2019, 08:19 pm.

    @Craeft Puddifoot offers Honeyduke's (6e), Violet Pudding (3e) and Afternoon Tea (3e),

    whereas Ministry A only offers Pumpkin Juice (3e) and Tomato Soup (3e)

  • CraeftCraeft Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #907 August, 2019, 08:23 pm.

    Do you have a reference of when that was updated, @Lucoire ?

    I ask because that's different from the above reference.

  • LucoireLucoire Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #1007 August, 2019, 08:24 pm.
  • LucoireLucoire Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #1107 August, 2019, 08:27 pm.

    @Craeft No, I don't. And quite frankly, I haven't even seen any change in my hood so it'll take a while to get any data on changes 😅

  • LucoireLucoire Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #1208 August, 2019, 06:46 am.

    @DrPants Could you check if there have been new POI added in your area?

    From what I've seen so far, the type of +Energy-POI in an area depends on the overall density of POI in that specific area. If the density of energy-sources increases, the type of energy-sources may change to keep the "Energy per Area" coefficient the same.

  • CytopeAchenCytopeAchen Posts: 354 ✭✭✭✭
    #1308 August, 2019, 09:46 am.

    @Lucoire I live in a small town with 25-30 Inns within 30min walking distance of one another. The majority are Ministry's with probably 5 or 6 Broomsticks. Within a 15min driving distance I can add an extra ~10 Weasleys. The surrounding area is extremely rural with little to no POIs though. If they're basing it off of the Ingress Regions then I feel the energy to area might be the case but otherwise I believe it is random.

  • LucoireLucoire Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #1408 August, 2019, 10:02 am.

    @CytopeAchen It would be interesting to know, which S2-Cell-Level these coefficients are based on 🤔

  • CytopeAchenCytopeAchen Posts: 354 ✭✭✭✭
    #1508 August, 2019, 10:13 am.

    @Lucoire I'm surprised someone hasn't combed through the data and posted it on reddit yet. Of course I'm more surprised we don't have a web based map for our POIs like Ingress and POGO have...

  • LucoireLucoire Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #1608 August, 2019, 10:41 am.

    @CytopeAchen I have an Idea as to why neither PoGO nor WU have an Ingame-Map of their own similar to Ingress. Keep in mind that this pure speculation:

    • The Ingress map "Intel" (intel.ingress.com/intel) is ancient.
    • It hasn't aged very well, the graphics rendering and server-client-communication is extremely unperformant given the intense amounts of data it has to compute.
    • It is quite ressource-intense when it comes to serverside hardware - as can be seen during Anomalies (mass-scale competitive Events in Ingress with over 1000 of concurrent players in the same city). The Site then tends to time out or take several minutes to load.
    • A massive downside of the server-client-communication is that the server has to have an API that the website can use to request data. In Pokemon GO, that API has been misused to violate the Terms of Service on a previously unexpected scale - to create "unofficial" maps or to guide bots.


    Based on that "history", I find it very unlikely that we'll see a map of ingame "things" in the near or far future.

  • DubiousAffairsDubiousAffairs Posts: 235 ✭✭✭
    #1708 August, 2019, 03:47 pm.

    I keep thinking that someone should be at the receiving end of a strongly-worded Howler by Molly Weasley, explaining that people do NOT leave her house hungry, and that anything else than a full meal from an inn modelled after her home is unacceptable.

  • FireNightingaleFireNightingale Posts: 105 ✭✭✭
    #1808 August, 2019, 04:20 pm.

    It's possible that it's a glitch. I sent off a panicky 'please put this fortress back in the game!' message when the one I usually use in the park vanished & the nearest one was a sponsored phone store on the high street. I assumed they were removing stuff from game to boost foot traffic to sponsored locations and was politely begging them to reconsider as it's far too busy to easily stop outside the sponsored fortress. However, when I restarted the app, the fortress returned!

    I hadn't come across that bug before, but now I know that glitches like that can happen I'll probably wait and see if they still exist after logging on & off and maybe rebooting my phone!

    Interestingly, the reply I got to my report was clearly a bot, as it said 'I can see you are concerned about...' and listed something I hadn't been talking about. So, their algos need work!

  • kiheikidkiheikid Posts: 2,168 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #1912 January, 2020, 09:05 am.

    kinda bummed - this week, a cluster of three green-roofed inns (located in an area even more rural than the area where we live) became blue-roofed inns ... no more turkey - chicken dinners. not sure why that would happen.

  • LucoireLucoire Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #2012 January, 2020, 12:29 pm.

    @kiheikid It is reasonably well understood why Inns in a certain S2-Cell are what color.


    In short, if the Inns in a S2-cell are downgraded it is because more POI were added to that cell.


    For more Info, look here: https://community.harrypotterwizardsunite.com/en/discussion/comment/18833#Comment_18833

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